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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Therein lies the problem with socialism.
    Taxation occurs in plenty of societies... not just socialist ones.

    Who gets to decide the what and when of, "necessary for the preservation and the continuation of an orderly society."?
    I suppose the people do.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. Look, you know and I know this is a "trap thread". If you actually meant, literally, "do you have the right to other people's property", the question could be easily answered... but that's NOT what you mean. You're trying to be cute and it ain't working. But, you said, and I quote, "it's up to me how I want to reply to the question", so I will take you up on that.

    Taxation is not slavery, nor is it stealing. If you think it is the former, sue the government or someone else based on 13th Amendment violations. If you think it is the latter, call a cop, and have the government or someone else arrested for theft. Let's see how far you get with either of those lawsuits.

    So, how do you like my answer?
    How do you know what I meant it as that? I did answer the question in the first post where the question resides at.

    I never mentioned that taxes was slavery in this thread. I believe you are confusing this thread with Are Taxes Slavery? I also never posited that taxes was stealing. The rest of your reply is hyperbole.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Then why not start a poll actually asking about those specifically?
    Could you be so kind as to change the poll question then? I thank you in advance for doing that.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I actually did clarify what ways the government takes property at the behest of the majority in post 33.
    OK. And I gave an example of a trial situation and asked if that was what you meant. Instead of responding, "yes" or "no", you said what else... what about seizures. What kinds of seizures are you wanting to talk about. You mentioned it, so don't try to tell us you don't have an agenda; we know you do. Just say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK. And I gave an example of a trial situation and asked if that was what you meant. Instead of responding, "yes" or "no", you said what else... what about seizures. What kinds of seizures are you wanting to talk about. You mentioned it, so don't try to tell us you don't have an agenda; we know you do. Just say it.
    No, I do not have an agenda. I just wanted to see what everyone's opinion of the question is and to let a discussion occur naturally. When I asked you about what else I wanted to hear your thoughts about the other types of seizures the government does. It is an honest question to start a discussion.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    How do you know what I meant it as that? I did answer the question in the first post where the question resides at.
    You said it was up to me as to how I reply to the question. Check your quote. Since you are not telling me what you meant, I am following what you said, and replying to the question in the way that I want. Now, if you would like a different kind of response, perhaps clarifying what you want would be in order.

    I never mentioned that taxes was slavery in this thread. I believe you are confusing this thread with Are Taxes Slavery? I also never posited that taxes was stealing. The rest of your reply is hyperbole.
    Your position on taxation is pretty clear. But this is moot. You said I could answer the question how I wanted. That's how I answered. If you want something different, clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    No, I do not have an agenda. I just wanted to see what everyone's opinion of the question is and to let a discussion occur naturally. When I asked you about what else I wanted to hear your thoughts about the other types of seizures the government does. It is an honest question to start a discussion.
    Come on, The_Patriot. You're changing the goalposts. NOW you want Redress to change the question to an issue about the government taking property from some to others via siezures, trials, eminent domain, etc... This is REAL different that can one person take another's property.

    Why don't you make this simple. Ask what you want to ask. Otherwise, we can just keep going round and round like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You said it was up to me as to how I reply to the question. Check your quote. Since you are not telling me what you meant, I am following what you said, and replying to the question in the way that I want. Now, if you would like a different kind of response, perhaps clarifying what you want would be in order.
    I asked you what you honestly thought about the other types in order to encourage a dialoge. I guess you have an agenda then. I asked Redress to change the question to be the one in the first post to avoid confusion and since he raised issue with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your position on taxation is pretty clear. But this is moot. You said I could answer the question how I wanted. That's how I answered. If you want something different, clarify.
    Is it? Would mind telling me what my opinion is on taxation?
    Last edited by The_Patriot; 07-17-10 at 08:42 PM.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I asked you what you honestly thought about the other types in order to encourage a dialoge. I guess you have an agenda then.
    If you were encouraging dialogue, you would have responded to my requests for clarification, and responded to the example I gave. You did neither.



    Is it? Would mind telling me what my opinion is on taxation?
    I think I already did. If it is different, please clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    If you were encouraging dialogue, you would have responded to my requests for clarification, and responded to the example I gave. You did neither.
    I did clarify on what the question was. You didn't like the clarification. I responded to your example by asking for more examples. That is encouraging a dialogue.

    The rest of your reply I put into the proper thread and answered it there.
    Last edited by The_Patriot; 07-17-10 at 08:52 PM.

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