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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Are you saying that this thread has nothing to do with taxation?
    Did you see where I mentioned taxation anywhere in this thread?

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Did you see where I mentioned taxation anywhere in this thread?
    Are there any other methods of government taking property?

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Are there any other methods of government taking property?
    Yes, there are plenty of methods the government uses to take property. Seizure, loss due to a trial, eminent domain, etc... are all methods of taking property. I never specified which one.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Did you see where I mentioned taxation anywhere in this thread?
    OK, if you don't mean taxation, then I ask my original question. How could the government force someone to give me their property? Give me an example.
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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK, if you don't mean taxation, then I ask my original question. How could the government force someone to give me their property? Give me an example.
    Since you're well versed in court cases, I'll let you use your own imagination.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Yes, there are plenty of methods the government uses to take property. Seizure, loss due to a trial, eminent domain, etc... are all methods of taking property. I never specified which one.
    Then the government has the right to do those things two, and in cases such as trials and such, that right extends to people.

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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Then the government has the right to do those things two, and in cases such as trials and such, that right extends to people.
    Government do not have rights, but powers delegated as per the Constitution. This is also a non-sequitor since I asked if you had the right to take it and use the government to enforce it not the government alone.
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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Government do not have rights, but powers delegated as per the Constitution. This is also a non-sequitor since I asked if you had the right and not the government.
    This is what you asked.

    A simple question. Do you have the right to other people's property and to enforce the taking of it through the use of the government?
    In the case of trial and such, the person winning the trial gains the rights to winnings (if it is a civil trial) enforced by government. Which means the losers property is transferred to the winner. So yes, I do believe we have the right per your original question.
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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Since you're well versed in court cases, I'll let you use your own imagination.
    So, your question is, for example, if person A were to kill person B while driving drunk, and as a result of the trial and being found guilty, person A is told by the judge (government) that he is to pay person B's heirs a monetary fine, would I believe that this is acceptable. Is this an example of what you are asking?
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    Re: Do You Have The Right To Other People's Property?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    This is what you asked.



    In the case of trial and such, the person winning the trial gains the rights to winnings (if it is a civil trial) enforced by government.
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    So, your question is, for example, if person A were to kill person B while driving drunk, and as a result of the trial and being found guilty, person A is told by the judge (government) that he is to pay person B's heirs a monetary fine, would I believe that this is acceptable. Is this an example of what you are asking?
    What about all of the other types of seizures done by the government?

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