Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
A simple question. Do you have the right to other people's property and to enforce the taking of it through the use of the government?

For myself, I will say no because it is your property and you can do with it as you see fit as long as it doesn't infringe the rights of others or harm them. I will state that property includes money, real property, and personal property.
Absolutely. Your argument is that if the property is not infringing upon other's rights and not harming them it is off limits. That means that we cannot levy fines, penalties or compensation from the assets of criminals if the assets were not involved in the crime. So everything Bernie Madoff bought that was not used in Ponzi Scheme is off limits to confiscation. That I cannot support in any way.

If I steal from you and the assets I have other then the assets used in the crime are off limits to confiscation to make you whole. Does that sound reasonable? Because that's what your argument is arguing. You probably weren't thinking that, but that's where your argument is heading.