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Thread: Why the unemployment? A poll

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's not entirely true.
    Some things can be made overseas with better cost efficiency (think small junky things at Walmart and dollar stores) but others like cars,bulky items can't.
    For some reason, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Volvo, Audi, and Volkswagen manage to make cars that sell better in the US than our homegrown incompetent boob car companies, and those car companies make a profit. Yes, some of the cars are made in the US, but whenever I drive past the Port of Los Angeles, there's always huge lots of brandy new imported cars lined up and waiting to go.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's not that difficult. We just have to pass a law that any American company must follow American labor laws no matter where in the world they have their manufacturing facilities. That means they have to follow the same wage, environmental and labor laws anywhere they are. They can't pay Chinese children a few pennies to make things, then spill toxic waste into the river. It'll make it unprofitable to go overseas and they'll bring their operations back home.
    No.

    If it's unprofitible, they'll shut their operations down.

    You ever think of actually thinkingn about what you write?

    You wrote that an American company should be forced to pay the same wages, follow the same laws, as they do in America, no matter where they are in the world. That means....if they're not profitable working in Mauritania, they won't be profitable in the US....because you just mandated that no matter where they go, their expenses never change.

    That means they go and close their doors, following your rules.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I really don't understand how Obama is getting blamed for the unemployment rates and bad economy, he inherited Bush's mess..the verdict is still out though on how well his plans will have worked.
    He's been Community Organizer in Chief for a year and a half. It's past time for him to give up his "Blame it on Bush" act and start explaining why the solutions he's proposed don't work.

    I mean, we already know why they don't work....socialism is a failure...but the Messiah needs to stop with the excuses and recognize that the Americans are tired of the excuses and have been expecting results. Well, they've been expecting better results than they're seeing.

    Worse isn't a result they expected when they were silly enough to vote for Obama.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    For some reason, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, Volvo, Audi, and Volkswagen manage to make cars that sell better in the US than our homegrown incompetent boob car companies, and those car companies make a profit. Yes, some of the cars are made in the US, but whenever I drive past the Port of Los Angeles, there's always huge lots of brandy new imported cars lined up and waiting to go.
    We're open for business in Mississippi. Thank you, GM, for pulling out of the NUMMI plant in Fremont, California so that Toyota would have an excuse to move Corolla production to our nonunion state and get the Blue Springs plant up and running. Why domestic companies continue to operate in the unionized North and West at all is beyond me. In a few years, the union will be back at the table with its hand out again, just as Boeing machinists have been recently. That's why we need EADS to win that tanker contract--again--so we can get another source for commercial airplane manufacturing in the U.S. that can thrive in the long run. Otherwise, Boeing will just pull a Ford, but instead of moving production to Mexico it will move it to China. It already is:

    At Boeing, you have the opportunity to be part of one of the most diverse, talented and innovative workforces anywhere. Boeing is the world's leading aerospace company and the largest manufacturer of commercial jetliners and military aircraft combined. Boeing employs 158,000 people around the world. We have 150 Boeing employees in China, and more than 6,000 employees at Boeing-related businesses such as subsidiaries and joint ventures.

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    It's funny how when Boeing is taking U.S. taxpayer subsidies and selling to the Department of Defense it's an "American" company, but when it wants to sell commercial airliners and transfer technology to foreigners it's a "global" company. As an American who wants to see manufacturing thrive in this country, I would rather have a "foreign" company headquartered in Tokyo or the Netherlands but committed to employing American workers instead of an "American" company headquartered in Chicago or Dearborn but committed to moving jobs to Mexico or China.
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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    He's been Community Organizer in Chief for a year and a half.
    Priceless. Say what you want about FDR, but at least he had something to show for the money he spent, like those flood control channels in San Antonio that were used to create the River Walk.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Free market is a disaster the way it stands. What's needed is a controlled organization like OPEC.

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    I rather imagine both China and the USSR tried this approach with somewhat dire results.
    Interestingly enough I see Venezuela going down the same well trodden path with much the same initial results, such as Higher inflation and less productivity.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Free market is a disaster the way it stands. What's needed is a controlled organization like OPEC.

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    We don't have a free market in any shape or form. What we have is corporatism and that is about as far from being a free market as you can get under capitalism.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    I did not see deregulation on the list.. I have not chosen a selection because I see current conservatives embracing libertarian economic conjecture which is the cause of the economic collapse. Austrian economics is the cause.
    Last edited by Gabriel; 07-18-10 at 06:55 PM.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I did not see deregulation on the list.. I have not chosen a selection because I see current conservatives embracing libertarian economic conjecture which is the cause of the economic collapse. Austrian economics is the cause.
    Austrian economics isn't embraced by the main stream economists, but Keynesian economics are. The economic collapse is a direct result the Keynesian philosophy of debt based spending to encourage growth coupled with the fiat Federal Reserve Note and fractional reserve banking. Austrian economics requires a hard currency base to work from with a savings based economic plan without a fractional reserve system. Austrians firmly believe that by doing actual savings and using hard metal currency like gold will allow a country to prosper and experience real growth. They've got a lot of historical evidence to base their beliefs on.
    Last edited by The_Patriot; 07-18-10 at 07:26 PM.

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    Re: Why the unemployment? A poll

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Austrian economics isn't embraced the main stream economists, but Keynesian economics are. The economic collapse is a direct result the Keynesian philosophy of debt based spending to encourage growth coupled with the fiat Federal Reserve Note and fractional reserve banking. Austrian economics requires a hard currency base to work from with a savings based economic plan without a fractional reserve system. Austrians firmly believe that by doing actual savings and using hard metal currency like gold will allow a country to prosper and experience real growth. They've got a lot of historical evidence to base their beliefs on.
    John Bogle: The Free Market's Moral Crisis

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    Eliot Spitzer: The Cataclysm of 2008-2009

    FORA.tv - Eliot Spitzer: The Cataclysm of 2008-2009

    Austrian School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Austrian School principles advocate strict adherence to methodological individualism – analyzing human action exclusively from the perspective of an individual agent.

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