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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    If the postal service is self-sufficient . . . and less people use it and everyone pays for what they do use . . . then it should require less people to run it, yeah?

    Oh - but that only matters if the business which is netting *less* profit reduces their employment and extension services . . . which they are doing but too little too late, they've declared bankruptcy (haven't they - or is it still just being considered and not official yet)

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you have any clue what a Letter Carrier makes compared to a UPS delivery driver?
    Nope - no clue.
    But I imagine, going out on a limb here, that an employee of the USPS is paid more because they're government . . . and government is almost always paid more than their civilian equal.

    Or am I wrong? I just don't know.

    To me it would make more sense to pay the person with the more strenuous workload more money - thus - the package guy who hoists your boxes around all day should be paid more than the processor who directs lettersl through the system.
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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    I am not too concerned about the private enterprise part, but I think way more paper mail is being sent than necessary. Less mail should be sent, period. There likely is not a need for so many post offices, if we only receive and send necessary mail. Much of the paper mail could be sent electronically.

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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    If the postal service is self-sufficient . . . and less people use it and everyone pays for what they do use . . . then it should require less people to run it, yeah?

    Oh - but that only matters if the business which is netting *less* profit reduces their employment and extension services . . . which they are doing but too little too late, they've declared bankruptcy (haven't they - or is it still just being considered and not official yet)



    Nope - no clue.
    But I imagine, going out on a limb here, that an employee of the USPS is paid more because they're government . . . and government is almost always paid more than their civilian equal.

    Or am I wrong? I just don't know.

    To me it would make more sense to pay the person with the more strenuous workload more money - thus - the package guy who hoists your boxes around all day should be paid more than the processor who directs lettersl through the system.
    similarly situated Postal workers tend to make more than those working at UPS and Fed Ex. UPS is teamsters union where I live



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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Well, I changed my mind. I don't want to abolish the postal service any more because I went back to the post office, got a stamp, and mailed my bill. The clerk was a hot blonde chick and I got a glimpse of some real nice raw bra.

    I guess I got up on the wrong side of the slab today and I feel better after my enema.

    So, in the words of Rosanadana, "Never mind". Saturday Night Live - Roseanne Rosanadana on Smoking - Video - NBC.com

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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    similarly situated Postal workers tend to make more than those working at UPS and Fed Ex. UPS is teamsters union where I live
    Yes, so, if it was privatized by a corporation . . . who's to say it won't fall victim to corporate greed - netting the worker's ****ty pay and too much pocket profit from the company?

    Crap pay is why we tip waitresses and why many people loath the free-market.
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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes, so, if it was privatized by a corporation . . . who's to say it won't fall victim to corporate greed - netting the worker's ****ty pay and too much pocket profit from the company?

    Crap pay is why we tip waitresses and why many people loath the free-market.
    when corporations get greedy, some consumers are hurt but others start competing corporations figuring they can sell the same product for less money and still make a ton. See Fed Ex and UPS.

    when the governmet gets greedy you get screwed because you cannot avoid dealing with the government and in extreme cases lots of people die



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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    when corporations get greedy, some consumers are hurt but others start competing corporations figuring they can sell the same product for less money and still make a ton. See Fed Ex and UPS.

    when the governmet gets greedy you get screwed because you cannot avoid dealing with the government and in extreme cases lots of people die
    I did not realize you were anti-war. Peace out, dude.

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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes, so, if it was privatized by a corporation . . . who's to say it won't fall victim to corporate greed - netting the worker's ****ty pay and too much pocket profit from the company?

    Crap pay is why we tip waitresses and why many people loath the free-market.
    people who loathe the free market are generally those too stupid or too untalented or lacking ambition to compete. I used to live with a waitress and the last thing she wanted was making a flat wage with no tips because she was an excellent waitress, with legs to die for and her personality, efficiency, mini skirt and tights were generally got her top tips the nights she worked



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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I did not realize you were anti-war. Peace out, dude.
    I am anti government when the government acts badly. wars are properly like surgery or rectal exams--unpleasant but worse than the consequences of not doing them



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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    when corporations get greedy, some consumers are hurt but others start competing corporations figuring they can sell the same product for less money and still make a ton. See Fed Ex and UPS.

    when the governmet gets greedy you get screwed because you cannot avoid dealing with the government and in extreme cases lots of people die
    So - how would it work if there were companies competing to deliver mail to my mailbox? The only way they could compete is by lowering rates . . . to whom?

    The reason why there are less people using the postal service is because there are other, more efficient means of delivering the same things (bills, letters, etc) - the only thing I get in my mailbox are some bills and netflix . . . and junk mail.

    There's no room for incentive, however, for me to receive *more* of these items by mail - and mailing letters is old and outdated and pointless.
    If a system is failing because less people use it - then it's not just failing, it's become outdated and useless. . . and there's no way to revive something that is suffering from age.

    so - how could they stay in business (government or privatized) - they'd have to expand their market-base by offering email and online bill pay of some nature. . . the things that are robbing them of snail-mail profit.

    But how do you do that when your venues are already trumped by other providers?
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