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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Well - not using it is why it's becoming more costly for those of us who do use it.

    Hrmph.
    Those who lag behind during "progress" end up paying more....and recieving less....

    Other - of course.
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    In the near future, there may be something totally different in its place.
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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    I have no problem with the government having the USPS - it's one of the few semi-efficient government-generated things that a lot of us benefit greatly from.
    If something happened to the branch in my town life would suddenly SUCK - because I mail things (not just routine mail) frequently.
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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Although I voted no, I don't see the USPS being around that much longer. Emails are rapidly replacing letters, and for legal documents, and other "paper", we have FEDEX and other courier companies. Although the USPS is not losing money, it's days are numbered. The only way they can stay in business is to raise prices. At some point, that will become unsustainable, and the USPS will go under, having been replaced by other entities that are more competitive in the marketplace.

    In the end, the marketplace drives who stays in business, and who doesn't. And it will be market forces that eventually put an end to USPS. With today's technology, along with USPS's inability to adapt to changing times, I don't see USPS being around for much more than 10 more years.

    The really good news in the USPS going under is that it will likely put an end to junk mail (Reminder - Celebrate when the day comes). LOL.
    They could be made viable by dumping home delivery and going to total P.O. Boxes.
    The union won't stand for that though.
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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Although I voted no, I don't see the USPS being around that much longer. Emails are rapidly replacing letters, and for legal documents, and other "paper", we have FEDEX and other courier companies. Although the USPS is not losing money, it's days are numbered. The only way they can stay in business is to raise prices. At some point, that will become unsustainable, and the USPS will go under, having been replaced by other entities that are more competitive in the marketplace.

    In the end, the marketplace drives who stays in business, and who doesn't. And it will be market forces that eventually put an end to USPS. With today's technology, along with USPS's inability to adapt to changing times, I don't see USPS being around for much more than 10 more years.

    The really good news in the USPS going under is that it will likely put an end to junk mail (Reminder - Celebrate when the day comes). LOL.
    The USPS will always be around if only to provide P.O. boxes for places not suitable for home delivery, such as rural areas.

    Also, I'm waiting for the time when the USPS will start offering e-mail services to Americans so the government can use it as a method to send important civil messages to people, such as updates on laws, notifications for government programs, and other services that allows the government to notify and inform citizens en masse.

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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The USPS will always be around if only to provide P.O. boxes for places not suitable for home delivery, such as rural areas.

    Also, I'm waiting for the time when the USPS will start offering e-mail services to Americans so the government can use it as a method to send important civil messages to people, such as updates on laws, notifications for government programs, and other services that allows the government to notify and inform citizens en masse.
    I have a P.O. Box because it is so much easier to move in an area than having standard mail delivered to your home, with the potential of theft.

    They should make the switch and eliminate home delivery altogether.
    The fuel savings alone would be a giant boost.
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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I have no problem with the government having the USPS - it's one of the few semi-efficient government-generated things that a lot of us benefit greatly from.
    If something happened to the branch in my town life would suddenly SUCK - because I mail things (not just routine mail) frequently.
    This is under the assumption that the private sector wouldn't replace USPS. Which, seeing as there is profit potential, I believe it would definately be picked up fairly quickly. And the only way we could actually abolish now that it already exists would be to sell it to the private sector so that there is no break in service.

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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    This is under the assumption that the private sector wouldn't replace USPS. Which, seeing as there is profit potential, I believe it would definately be picked up fairly quickly. And the only way we could actually abolish now that it already exists would be to sell it to the private sector so that there is no break in service.
    And so you think that a privatized profit-focused corporate postal service would keep the cost low?
    The moment corporate takes over is the moment crap because expensive and service sucks. . . government has *non profit* priorities, at least.
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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Post Office problems

    1) some are technology based-emails, faxes, and competition from Fed Ex and UPS has hurt the post office. For example, I pay bills on line-saves postage stamps. People send E-Cards rather than mailing them. Many government agencies use Fed Ex for overnite deliveries

    2) Unions-the Postal service has several unions-from the Mail Handlers, the NALC (letter carriers) and the APWU. They drive the cost of labor up and cost the service millions in both legitimate and bogus grievances.

    3) Postal workers are paid higher in the service than equivalent workers in other areas-including the government. This has two effects-one obvious (cost of labor is too high for the postal service) and a second one that is not obvious to most people. Postal workers file thousands of lawsuits every year against the postal service and make millions of claims for workers compensation etc. If a postal worker is fired, and wins a lawsuit (Bush I idiotically signed a law allowing jury trials in these suits which sent the number and cost of these suits sky high) they get huge damages because they normally cannot mitigate their damages very well with work outside the service. In some districts, half of the cases handled by the civil division of the Department of Justice's US attorneys' offices involve Postal cases-employment discrimination cases often cooked up by unions and FTCA (federal tort claims)



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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    And so you think that a privatized profit-focused corporate postal service would keep the cost low?
    The moment corporate takes over is the moment crap because expensive and service sucks. . . government has *non profit* priorities, at least.
    do you have any clue what a Letter Carrier makes compared to a UPS delivery driver?



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    Re: Abolish the Postal Service

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I have a P.O. Box because it is so much easier to move in an area than having standard mail delivered to your home, with the potential of theft.

    They should make the switch and eliminate home delivery altogether.
    The fuel savings alone would be a giant boost.
    true even though we would have to evaluate the fuel cost of millions of people driving to a post office versus postal LLV's delivering mail.



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