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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Simple but controversial question. It's a well know fact that it is less dangerous than Tobacco and Alcohol yet we imprison almost 1 million people every year for simple possession. The government spends billions every year fighting Marijuana yet it just proves to be futile. It is also considered medically useful for over 200 diseases and illnesses.

    Ok my intro is somewhat biased

    to counter my point

    Marijuana makes black people go crazy and rape white women. It also kills brain cells and takes away all motivation and turns you into a pacifist!
    All drugs should be legalized, outlawing the use of any substance is a violation of the right of self ownership.

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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    Of course marijuana should be legalized. Especially since there are many worse drugs out there that are legal.

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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    I voted other. I do not believe marijuana should be legalized, but I do believe that they should lessen the punishment for possessing/smoking marijuana. It should be treated as a low class drug and the penalty should be a small fine or something. It shouldn't be treated the same as far worse illegal substances.
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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    If some damn fool wants to put some chemical in his body to give him the twitches or wreck his perception of reality, or just give him a hardon for a day or two, that is absolutely his business, not mine, not yours, and most certainly not the government's.

    If that damn fool tries to do something that clearly presents a real hazard to others, such as driving a motor vehicle, wandering randomly on foot in traffic, or while in charge of a minor child, or similar circumstances, the law can be applied to regulate that behavior.

    But punishing people for possessing a "substance"? Ain't a word in the Constitution authorizing that.

    Also, the arguments on legalization of marijuana shouldn't be "to boost the tax base". If the politicians can't discuss the moral and legal issues objectively, they should be heaved out of office, because they're not serving the public's interest, but their own.

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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I wonder what would happen to the price of MJ if it were legalized. Taxed like cigarettes, I would think we'd still have an underground market. Don't know. Never bought any.
    That would depend on how much taxation you're talking about. There's a black market on cigarettes because of the absurd taxes on those stupid things.

    If there's enough gap between the cost to take the product to market, and the additional superfluous burden added by government, then there will be people willing to cut out the parasitic government and deal with the customer on a more unofficial basis.

    Risk raises price.

    Tax somethin high enough, and the profit for taking the risk of skipping the taxman emboldens some to take the risk.

    Also, there's absoulutely no reason, none whatsoever, for ANY product offered for retail sale to be taxed at a different rate than others.

    What? I heard someone say sales of alcohol, tobacco, and other drugs should be taxed to cover the cost of rehab clinics. Shame on you. There's no constitutional authority for anyone to be taxed to provide elective services like that. There's no Constitutional authority for the government to provide any health care functions at all.

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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Now, at the end of all that, I'm for legalization. I think we have many of the tools in place in crafting the laws for regulating it and allowing it into the legalized market place. Sell it in situations akin to hard liquor, IE in most states, within an authorized ABC store with a 21 years old age limit (frankly I think alcohol should go down to 18, but it should be the same as alcohol). Have similar laws regarding intoxication and use in public, driving under the influence, etc that we have with Alcohol. Also use cigerettes as a baseline idea in regards to laws of indoor smoking of it in public. While I'm generally not in favor of public smoking bans, if they're in place in the state they should be applied to marijauna as well. Similar to Tobbaco in some states I imagine you'd start to see "bars" that cater specifically to marijuana users with the proper ventiliation required to be able to have it geared towards that. I am not sure of the legitimacy of a contact high in a bar situation (I know in a very confined space its possible, but more difficult for such to happen in a large open area room), but depending on that it would potentially be a more realistic raeson why to keep it out from places of business specialized in its use as it would potentially make the notion of a designated driver impossible in bars if there's a chance one with a low tolerance for such things could get a contact high.

    But utlimately I see no reason not to legalize it. Its short term affects on a person ranges from less to about on par with alcohol, its long term danger is less, its intrusiveness on others around you is around the same as smoking, and its addiction level is low. It would potentially reduce the violence some on the border, would free up law enforcement resources, would generate jobs and revenue both in the private sector and public sector. Decriminalize it at least, legalize it preferably.
    Great post. Legalizing pot would remove a revenue source from criminal drug cartels, free up law enforcement resources, reduce related government spending, provide new tax revenue, and generate jobs.

    I have yet to hear a solid argument why marijuana should remain illegal. Unless you long for the good old days of prohibition, I really can't fathom why you would favor continuing our failed drug policy. I can understand being a little more reluctant towards legalizing harder drugs, but marijuana is relatively safe and not very addictive.

    The biggest mistake some pro-pot advocates make is overstating their case, acting as if marijuana has no adverse affects, causes no impairment, and is basically a wonder drug. Making those kind of claims removes any sense of credibility.
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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    The biggest mistake some pro-pot advocates make is overstating their case, acting as if marijuana has no adverse affects, causes no impairment, and is basically a wonder drug. Making those kind of claims removes any sense of credibility.
    What adverse affects are there? As you can see from my sig (it is my site) I am making the claim that the are no long term harmful affects.

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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    Yeah, I think it should be legalised, since it seems to be no more harmful than alcohol.

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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    It shouldn't unless the manufacture, distribution and sale of are all legalized at the same time.
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    Re: Should Marijuana be legalized?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    there have been studies that show Marijuana has zero correlation with lung cancer...

    don't take my word for it though, listen to the qualified doctors including a Harvard medical professor speak about it.

    YouTube - Wait... what? How Dangerous Is Marijuana Again?
    Wonderful, now show me where there's any indication of the fat that the chart you showed is speaking about deaths caused by overuse of the drug itself and its related health affects.

    As it stands, it doensn't. It just says "Deaths", which is ambiguous, and gives no indication of how they collected the data which immedietely throws the whole thing into question because there's no way to verify it because there's no way to know what its actually looking at. It also makes it hard to see how questionable some of the health criteria may be. For examples some studies seem to suggest the increased heart rate from the initial beginning of smoking could increase the chance for heart attack; however are heart attacks while smoking marijuana considered something that is applied to the drug or not?

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