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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helvidius View Post
    I do not believe taxation to be a form of slavery. I base this on the idea of the social contract: people leave the state of nature and give rights to a government to maintain social order. I live in the United States. I have the right to leave the U.S. if I do not agree with the taxes. Yes, one could argue people are forced through coercion to pay taxes, but I also have the ability to work towards a tax system I agree with.
    Show me this social contract because I never signed a contract. The rest of your statement is hyperbole.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    ok.. fine it was a generalisation of which I am ashamed of, not really, but still a stereotype.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    People like me? Explain? What do you personally know about me. Is that like a Ross Perot, "You people"?

    When you call me unproductive, it proves you know very little about me or my personal life to pass such a judgement.

    I don't like to brag about my personal life or success in life but if I did you would be in for a big surprise because you are dead wrong about me.
    true you could really be a hard working payer of massive taxes who just pretends to support politicians pandering to those who think others owe them support. You might really be Karl Rove posting liberal blathering in order to make dems look bad.

    anything is possible on a message board I suppose



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Libertarians are really such clowns when it comes to taxation.. first they cry about taxes.. Then cut taxes for wealthy by implementing a flat income tax.. Which in turn actually raises taxation for the working poor who represent a larger percent of the population.. What a confused bunch of starry eye free market utopians.
    the rich pay way too much in taxes and those who are not rich use way more than they fairly pay for.

    tell me why someone else has a duty to carry another peron's share of the load? what have those free loaders done for the net taxpayers that justifies sponging off of their labor?



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I'm a Constitutionalist and have said so many times. Being a Constitutionalist means that I don't follow the libertarian ideals of anarchism, but follow the ideals of the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of my state of residence. I believe that there should be a government because James Madison said it best, "If men were angels there would be no need for government."
    You follow the Constitution of the U.S. and of your respective state which, though on a national level calls for limited government, calls for a government nonetheless. The Constitution is a contract you yourself wrote you have agreed to. It is a social contract because the federal government receives its rights from you. By agreeing with the Constitution you consent to give the federal government certain powers (such as defense) rather than living in a world of anarchy.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the rich pay way too much in taxes and those who are not rich use way more than they fairly pay for.

    tell me why someone else has a duty to carry another peron's share of the load? what have those free loaders done for the net taxpayers that justifies sponging off of their labor?
    I think you've mistaken working poor for.. welfare bums, clearly an ignorant misunderstanding on your behalf.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true you could really be a hard working payer of massive taxes who just pretends to support politicians pandering to those who think others owe them support. You might really be Karl Rove posting liberal blathering in order to make dems look bad.

    anything is possible on a message board I suppose
    I agree my left wing friend.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    If you dont like paying income taxes, stop making an income.

    You wont be whipped, beaten or hamstrung by your master

    As a slave you would be
    We need to repeal the 16th Amendment to the Constitution. Replace it with "The Fair Tax"

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I think you've mistaken working poor for.. welfare bums, clearly an ignorant misunderstanding on your behalf.
    I think you have no clue about what I think and you again are wrong. and plenty of the "working poor" don't pay nearly enough for what they use. IN fact almost all use more than they pay.



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I agree my left wing friend.
    lots of people say that because

    1) I have no problem with gays adopting children or getting married or serving in most military roles openly and proudly

    2) I think the war on drugs is a massive failure and a sinister and cynical ploy to rape our constitutional freedoms

    3) I support abortion rights and think-as long as we pay for the healtcare of unwanted children, we ought to pay for abortions

    4) I think bible thumpers are almost as idiotic as socialists and obama-slurpers



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