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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    When you do the same. And I am discussing this. Read my responses to Turtle.
    Except your replying in a discussion with Turtle and not me. With me you are using hyperbole and showing no intention of discussing it with me.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Again... I would agree with this. There is so much inefficiency in government. We need another Hoover Commission.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Except your replying in a discussion with Turtle and not me. With me you are using hyperbole and showing no intention of discussing it with me.
    Then try not to throw hyperbole my way. Tell me... what do you think would be a reasonable solution to tax laws?
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Then try not to throw hyperbole my way. Tell me... what do you think would be a reasonable solution to tax laws?
    I never threw hyperbole your way. The moment you stepped into this thread you were throwing it at me.

    Remove all of the unconstitutional spending by dismantling the welfare state, severely cut back on the military and remove the warfare state, convert to a gold standard as mandated in the Constitution, and to revert back to the tax system that is in place in the Constitution.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I never threw hyperbole your way. The moment you stepped into this thread you were throwing it at me.

    Remove all of the unconstitutional spending by dismantling the welfare state, severely cut back on the military and remove the warfare state, convert to a gold standard as mandated in the Constitution, and to revert back to the tax system that is in place in the Constitution.
    While that would be nice that's not gonna happen so what do you want that would work? seriously. I agree with most of what you say in theory. I want the death confiscation tax gone or hit every estate with a 55% tax bill since that would get those who want the rich to get soaked should put their money where their mouthes are. I also think the progressive income tax is an improper power grab.



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    While that would be nice that's not gonna happen so what do you want that would work? seriously. I agree with most of what you say in theory. I want the death confiscation tax gone or hit every estate with a 55% tax bill since that would get those who want the rich to get soaked should put their money where their mouthes are. I also think the progressive income tax is an improper power grab.
    I prefer apathy since unless that happens the US government will go bankrupt because it can't pay its bills.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I prefer apathy since unless that happens the US government will go bankrupt because it can't pay its bills.
    Turtle is right, though. My question used the word "reasonable". What you propose is not reasonable or reality based. It's extreme. What you seem to be saying is that, unless your extreme position is in place, you will be apathetic towards anything else. Consider this. What would be the FIRST step you would take?
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Turtle is right, though. My question used the word "reasonable". What you propose is not reasonable or reality based. It's extreme. What you seem to be saying is that, unless your extreme position is in place, you will be apathetic towards anything else. Consider this. What would be the FIRST step you would take?
    The first step I would take is to try every member of the government for treason for failing to uphold their oath. That would be reasonable. Actually, the most reasonable action to take is to be apathetic since the ballot box isn't working. Let the government fail and the states separate.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    The first step I would take is to try every member of the government for treason for failing to uphold their oath. That would be reasonable. Actually, the most reasonable action to take is to be apathetic since the ballot box isn't working. Let the government fail and the states separate.
    I like your thinking but C2 is correct

    lets stick with reality. lets get more judges who take the tenth amendment seriously and strike down the health care bill as violating the tenth amendment as the Supremes held in Lopez and partially in Prinz (striking down the mandate portion of the brady background check bill forcing the states to pay for it)

    rule as unconstitutional future power grabs by congress and gradually reign in the unconstitutional power grabs that have already taken place.

    strike down the cap and trade nonsense if it is passed-again its clearly improper.

    eliminate the death confiscation tax



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I like your thinking but C2 is correct

    lets stick with reality. lets get more judges who take the tenth amendment seriously and strike down the health care bill as violating the tenth amendment as the Supremes held in Lopez and partially in Prinz (striking down the mandate portion of the brady background check bill forcing the states to pay for it)

    rule as unconstitutional future power grabs by congress and gradually reign in the unconstitutional power grabs that have already taken place.

    strike down the cap and trade nonsense if it is passed-again its clearly improper.

    eliminate the death confiscation tax
    The reality is that nothing short of drastic measures will fix the problems. The only realistic solution is to be apathetic and watch the government fall apart.

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