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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The fact is that charities are never as reliable as the US government. My argument was never that charities don't do good, or they can't take care of people. My argument is that charities can't of all of the impoverished, like the US government can. Until charities get taxes from every citizen, every year they will never be as reliable as the US government. If they were, charities would of gotten people out of the great depression, not the government. But that didn't happen, the government did.
    I see that you're hurling opinion as fact. If you think that charities are not as reliable as the US government then prove it. I'm from Missouri so Show Me.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Your words, not mine. Also please point out these rules that show that you do not need to prove your assertions? Are they in a book that I have to buy?
    My reply was to Liberal Avenger who provided no proof. Therefore, I am not required to provide any proof. Go after him to prove that charities weren't effective or reliable and I did post proof that charities were just as effective in post #583. I even explained why the government hates competition and used facts to support it. I guess this is a case of where liberals do not have to use proof and facts, but their word is good enough. Not for me, so show me.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    My reply was to Liberal Avenger who provided no proof. Therefore, I am not required to provide any proof.
    Please point out these rules that show that you do not need to prove your assertions.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Go after him to prove that charities weren't effective or reliable and I did post proof that charities were just as effective in post #583.
    Thats not proof that private charities can keep up with the needs of the financially handicapped, that is statistics on giving. There is nothing on that website you linked that showed overall impact to the communty and nothing to support that it encompasses the needs of the financially handicapped.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I even explained why the government hates competition and used facts to support it.
    Whether or not government hates competition is not the part I am interested in. If you look at previous posts, you will notice which part I have made bold.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    I guess this is a case of where liberals do not have to use proof and facts, but their word is good enough. Not for me, so show me.
    What other people do on this forum is not my responsibility. Please stop using this red herring.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    What other people do on this forum is not my responsibility. Please stop using this red herring.
    Then stop picking up their argument. If you want to then you provide proof, if not then stop demanding that I produce proof for an argument I did not make. It's quite simple.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Then stop picking up their argument. If you want to then you provide proof, if not then stop demanding that I produce proof for an argument I did not make. It's quite simple.
    Where am I picking up their argument?

    Also, I have shown multiple times that you did make that argument, using your own posts. You can keep denying it if you want, but its making you look bad.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Where am I picking up their argument?
    A perfect example is post #588. You step into the argument demanding proof for something I did not make an argument for originally. If you want proof go after the person that posited that charities aren't effective or as reliable as the government. Thus, you need to present the proof required before I do as a counterpoint.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Then stop picking up their argument. If you want then you provide proof, if not then stop demanding that I produce proof for an argument I did not make. It's quite simple.
    I must be misunderstanding something.

    As I understand things, you responded to someone's post, and megaprogman then responded to your response, demanding proof of your disagreement.

    Where is the demand for proof of an arguement you didn't make?

    Or are you for some reason claiming that because you were responding to someone elses post, THEY made the arguement, and you simply disagreed?

    Still, why would that mean you didn't argue something?

    And why would it mean you didn't have to provide proof?
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    A perfect example is post #588. You step into the argument demanding proof for something I did not make an argument for originally.
    That would be one of the posts where I am showing you that you are making an argument that you did not make. You will notice that I am quoting you.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    If you want proof go after the person that posited that charities aren't effective or as reliable as the government. Thus, you need to present the proof required before I do as a counterpoint.
    Why would I ask for proof of your assertion to a person who does not believe it to be true? That makes no sense. Besides, your assertion stands on its own, if you wanted him to present proof of his assertion, you should ask him for it.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I must be misunderstanding something.

    As I understand things, you responded to someone's post, and megaprogman then responded to your response, demanding proof of your disagreement.

    Where is the demand for proof of an arguement you didn't make?

    Or are you for some reason claiming that because you were responding to someone elses post, THEY made the arguement, and you simply disagreed?

    Still, why would that mean you didn't argue something?

    And why would it mean you didn't have to provide proof?
    They made the argument that charities weren't effective or reliable and I disagreed. I demanded no proof at that time since it was a simple discussion with the person.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    They made the argument that charities weren't effective or reliable and I disagreed. I demanded no proof at that time since it was a simple discussion with the person.
    LiberalAvenger and I are not the same person. The correct pronoun would be he.

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