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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    The social darwinists would love to get rid of social security. An interesting blog about it.

    AFL-CIO NOW BLOG | Social Security Cuts Eyed by Deficit Commission ‘Especially Painful,’ Report Finds

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Some of the christian force you to be "washed in the blood of jesus" in order to get aid.
    A private organization can put any policy they want in regards to their money they give out. Just like the government can put any policy they want in regards to the money they give out to the poor.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    These states were in a state of rebellion at the time, refusing to abide by the Constitution. They also voluntarily chose to remove their representation. Since the state of rebellion threatened the security of the US itself, I'n certain that a case could be made that this was valid under national defense laws.
    I dont think so. Nothing in the Constution even comes close to giving the federal government the power to require a state to vote at ALL on an amendment, much less -require- it to vote one way or the other.

    You may make such an argument if you like, but your road is long and difficult.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    No, your proof fails to address the years between the 1700's-1919. As such it is invalid. Find proof that backs up your statements about the reliability and effectiveness of charities between 1700 till 1919. Also, the statistics I provided from the National Poverty Center have shown that the levels of poverty have remained unchanged in the United States even after the implementation of federal welfare programs.
    I'm saying that charities are never as reliable as the government. What happens when the charity you are getting aid from looses its funding? That won't happen with government welfare programs.

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    A private organization can put any policy they want in regards to their money they give out. Just like the government can put any policy they want in regards to the money they give out to the poor.
    But the governments requirements to get welfare are about need, not about religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    A private organization can put any policy they want in regards to their money they give out. Just like the government can put any policy they want in regards to the money they give out to the poor.
    No the government can not respect the establishment of religion when funding social programs.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    No the government can not respect the establishment of religion when funding social programs.
    he said:
    A private organization can put any policy they want in regards to their money they give out.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
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    A private organization can put any policy they want in regards to their money they give out.
    Yeah, so what?

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Now prior to 1916, people in the United States had far more disposable income due to the fact there weren't that many taxes placed on them and the government didn't limit their choices regarding charitible giving. Combine this with the fact that there was a fixed currency that didn't devalue over time, inflation, that the average American's spending power was greater than it is today. All of this is the fault of the government by implementing laws that interfere with charitible giving, fiat currency that has lost its purchasing power, and the taking of most of the disposable income of many Americans through taxation. Link
    i can't find any data to support your disposable income claim......can you provide? all i can find is a study that directly contradicts your claim.

    http://nordhaus.econ.yale.edu/nordhaus_fisher.pdf

    see figure 1.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Yeah, so what?
    So what?
    Your response was entirely irrelevant to what he said.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I'm saying that charities are never as reliable as the government. What happens when the charity you are getting aid from looses its funding? That won't happen with government welfare programs.



    But the governments requirements to get welfare are about need, not about religion.
    Show me the proof that backs up your first statement regarding charity for the years 1700-1919. I have been waiting patiently for it.

    The government can limit you to get welfare based upon skin color (actually happened to me back when I was poor and needed help) or any other criteria they want to put into place. It is not guaranteed.

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