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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Your system is certainly one of plutocracy. You don't like being called on it, so you deny it. Doesn't change the fact. You want to act like an elitist, that's fine. Unfortunately for you, your ilk will always remain in the minority.



    False dichotomy. Guess what. YOU don't get to tell ME what I can choose. Like it or not, you lose on this issue. I know you don't like this, but it remains a fact.



    You've already lost a ton of credibility with your foolish hyperbolic posts. Let me know when your posting becomes more reality based, again.

    your denials are foolish and you play evasive games. I know you don't like it but its a fact. I haven't posted a single thing you can actually prove as false--you utter an opinion which I reject as unlearned and statist



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    You have no way of knowing that. The U.S. already gives more in private charity than any other country who knows how much more the individual would give if he were not, also, being robbed at every turn by the state through property tax, sales tax, income tax, alcohol tax, tobacco tax, gasoline tax, etc etc et al. Moreover, under a stateless society the poor would be allowed to homestead land currently being illegitimately claimed by the state.
    The poor pay sales tax, alcohol tax, tobacco tax, gasoline tax, utility tax, license fees, interest on indebtedness, high interest payday loans (up to 500%), property taxes (indirectly, even though they rent), etc. After all those taxes they can not afford to pay income taxes.

    I believe I am correct that private charities can not handle the burden. I have to research it, though.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    The poor pay sales tax, alcohol tax, tobacco tax, gasoline tax, utility tax, license fees, interest on indebtedness, high interest payday loans (up to 500%), property taxes (indirectly, even though they rent), etc. After all those taxes they can not afford to pay income taxes.
    And eliminating those taxes would put more capital in their pockets, so what's your point?

    I believe I am correct that private charities can not handle the burden. I have to research it, though.
    How do you mean "can not handle the burden"? State theft and redistribution to the needy is inefficient and more than that unethical.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    And eliminating those taxes would put more capital in their pockets, so what's your point?



    How do you mean "can not handle the burden"? State theft and redistribution to the needy is inefficient and more than that unethical.
    If we eliminated those taxes the rich would have to make up for the short fall.

    Ethics has nothing to do with it. You are talking about concepts such as love, peace, and justice. Prove your point in using it.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    That sounds good on paper. Unfortunately, private charities can not keep up with the needs of the f financially handicapped.
    Not true since private charities were able to do so for over a hundred years before the government got involved. The government hates competition.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Not true since private charities were able to do so for over a hundred years before the government got involved. The government hates competition.
    Private charities don't have the reliability of the government. They can be there for you one month, but not the next. The government won't do that.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Not true since private charities were able to do so for over a hundred years before the government got involved. The government hates competition.
    Do you have any data to support this assertion?

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Private charities don't have the reliability of the government. They can be there for you one month, but not the next. The government won't do that.
    Not true since the historical documentation shows that charities, before the government got involved, were reliable and there for you. This is why there were entire hospitals and other types of charity that existed for almost 200 years before the government got involved.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Do you have any data to support this assertion?
    Will this suffice?

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Not true since the historical documentation shows that charities, before the government got involved, were reliable and there for you. This is why there were entire hospitals and other types of charity that existed for almost 200 years before the government got involved.
    Your over exaggerating the effectiveness of those charities. Before welfare programs it was quite literally do or die.

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