Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller
Failed state + civil war =/= anarchy.
Well then you have just admitted that all citizens living under a state sovereign are nothing but slaves IE property of the state.I could give you some great philosophers on the subject if you're interested, but I would disagree you don't own yourself.
80% of electicity in the U.S. is produced by private utilities.and power.
I don't know what roads you've been driving on. Regardless the responsibility of road upkeep and repair is contracted out to private agencies as is the construction of roads themselves, but they are payed by the state, however, they could easily pay for the construction and upkeep of these roads through tolls. You do realize that the toll roads payed for by taxpayer money are still collecting tolls even though you've already payed for them?Good and well kept roads.
Ah the state racketeering scheme at its finest, you are literally are paying the state protection money, if you don't pay these professional police forces aka gangs will come and slap handcuffs on you, if you resist you will be beaten or killed.Professional police departments etc.
If this was a free society you would have a right to opt out of such "services".All things that the people I have an opportunity to vote for or against help maintain.
According to any rational observer, the state is a legalized monopoly which has the sole authority to exercise the use of force.According to whom? You?
Petitio Principii begging the question logical fallacy because this line of argument must pre-suppose its own conclusion that the state is legitimate:Wow, that is so typical of the "I hate government no matter what crowed." I am no fan of big government, but it could be so much worse. If you don't like our system, you can always move? I would.
"I think that the person who makes this argument is already assuming that the government has some legitimate jurisdiction over this territory. And then they say, well, now, anyone who is in the territory is therefore agreeing to the prevailing rules. But they’re assuming the very thing they're trying to prove – namely that this jurisdiction over the territory is legitimate. If it's not, then the government is just one more group of people living in this broad general geographical territory. But I've got my property, and exactly what their arrangements are I don't know, but here I am in my property and they don't own it – at least they haven't given me any argument that they do – and so, the fact that I am living in "this country" means I am living in a certain geographical region that they have certain pretensions over – but the question is whether those pretensions are legitimate. You can’t assume it as a means to proving it." -- Roderick Long Libertarian Anarchism: Responses to Ten Objection
Yes us crazy lunatics what with our crazy outrageous ideas like the contractual society, the right to self ownership, and the non-aggression principle, I mean that's way crazier than centralizing the use of force into a singular monopoly which is not only above the law but writes the law.Throw out we the people vote the people into office.
I mean really, it's a good thing that people with that mind set are in the lunatic fringe and have no chance of ever gaining any power.
Statist - Statism (or etatism) is an ideology advocating the use of states to achieve goals, both economic and social.I am a statist now? LMAO! I am about as far as you can get from that. I am a realist though. We have a system and we have to work to better it. This means realistic goals and not libertarian or green party Utopian pipe dreams that belong on the fringe.
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Oh before I forget The Mark and Blackdog, liblady did state that the typical rebel soldier was uneducated. She said it in post #116 (Is Taxation Slavery?). She asserted and you both defended, so now you have to provide proof to back up her claim.
Since she asserted that the typical rebel soldier was uneducated she had to provide proof to back up this assertation. She failed to do so. I provided proof of my statements regarding literacy in the south.no, i'm saying that the typical rebel soldier was uneducated.
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