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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I didn't provide a source because I thought the logic and reasoning would be enough to convince you.

    And could you direct me to which post you provided the proof in? I have not seen it.
    Sorry, but according the rules of debate you need to do the following: Source
    A great deal has been written and said about the burden of proof, and certain misconceptions have arisen about the duty of the affirmative. The rule is simple:

    Rule 5a. He who asserts must prove.

    This principle applies equally to the two teams. Of course, the affirmative must show that its plan is desirable, which means that it must show that some benefits will result; otherwise it has failed to give reason for adopting the plan, and has lost the debate. The commonly heard statement that "the affirmative has the burden of proof" means that and nothing more.
    It's not my responsibility to direct you to where I have provided proof since you stepped into the debate you should have read all the posts regarding said point of the debate.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Why would I need too? Your source says "While the South did not place a high regard on book learning and is usually thought of as backward relative to the rest of the United States" what more do I need to add other than you are as usual wrong. So I just posted a source, just happens to be the same one you used. It just so happens it backs up my position and destroys yours. Quite funny actually.
    Still no proof of your own. You lose.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    There are LOTS of things my government does that I disagree with. There are LOTS of things it spends money on that I don't like. There are LOTS of tax laws I hate.

    But I'm a patriotic American, and a loyal American, and I know that this is what democracy is all about. I won't always get my way.
    So you dont mind being forced into involuntary servitude.

    That's your call. It doesnt invalidate the argument that you are indeed so forced.

    I seriously have to question whether someone who didn't understand this basic concept would be sentient.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    So you dont mind being forced into involuntary servitude.

    That's your call. It doesnt invalidate the argument that you are indeed so forced.

    I seriously have to question whether someone who didn't understand this basic concept would be sentient.
    Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Still no proof of your own. You lose.
    I posted proof. Just because you were ignorant enough to believe it supported your position is of no consequence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I posted proof. Just because you were ignorant enough to believe it supported your position is of no consequence.
    You didn't post proof from your own source. Failure to provide your own source means you lose.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    You didn't post proof from your own source. Failure to provide your own source means you lose.
    LMAO! According to who??? You? Hehehehehehehehehe!

    OK I am done here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    LMAO! According to who??? You? Hehehehehehehehehe!

    OK I am done here.
    According to the Parlimentary Rules of Debate, which I sourced. He that asserts must prove.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    A high level of taxation 90+% but not 100% would be somewhere between serfdom (Eastern European type) and slavery. I would also point out that the targets of the tax also would not get any brownie points if they submitted to it and would be targeted with "hate speech" by the pols in the government but that is a separate issue. My Opinion 20% would be a fair amount to pay.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Sorry, but according the rules of debate you need to do the following: Source

    It's not my responsibility to direct you to where I have provided proof since you stepped into the debate you should have read all the posts regarding said point of the debate.
    What, I have to read it all?

    **** that, I'm too lazy atm, and it's not that important to me.

    But what the hell, I'll give it a try.

    Here's a quote from Literacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
    Literacy has traditionally been described as the ability to read and write. It is a concept claimed and defined by a range of different theoretical fields. The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) defines literacy as the "ability to identify, understand, interpret, create, communicate, compute and use printed and written materials associated with varying contexts.
    Going by their definition, no one is completely literate.

    As in, if you lack the skills/knowledge to understand a book on high-level programming, you are not literate in that area.

    I was thinking of "literacy" more as an "ability to read/write", dependent on other skills/knowledge (math, science) for understanding.

    So perhaps there is a disconnect between to our respective definitions.

    How do you define "literacy"?
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