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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Just because it was lower then the north doesn't mean that the south was uneducated, so you actually fail. Literacy in the south was between 81-90% which isn't that far off from the north's 91%.
    According to your source, literacy was not or had little to do with being educated.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    depends

    use taxes are fair-stuff like gasoline taxes, hunting licenses, etc

    sales taxes are mainly fair

    progressive income taxes are extortion and are an extra-constitutional power grab by congress using "divide and conquer". everyone should be able to keep the same percentage of the next dollar they earn. No group should be able to increase the taxes of another group while suffering no loss of wealth or income themselves



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    You are missing the last half of the sentence of what Lincoln said. I'm sorry that you keep making excuses for an illegal war and for a dictator.
    This pretty much sums up the lunacy of your argument.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    According to your source, literacy was not or had little to do with being educated.
    And that was a single source, which also states that the study of education in the antebellum south has been ignored. The south was on par with education as the north was. I have yet to see anyone source that it was otherwise.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    And that was a single source, which also states that the study of antebellum south has been ignored. The south was on par with education as the north was. I have yet to see anyone source that it was otherwise.
    You made the statement that they were on par. The burden of proof is on you. So far you have failed as even your source disagrees.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    According to your source, literacy was not or had little to do with being educated.
    he is correct to some extent. There were master craftsmen who could not read. I doubt the men who forged the finest katana in Japan were much good at reading. However, they were highly educated in making iron into folded steel, and and what temperature (done by color) steel needed to be brought to in order to create the best edge and the strongest sword.

    In modern society, it is difficult to believe someone could be educated without being able to absorb written information. But many societies, in the course of history, had very wise individuals who could not read. If I recall correctly, until Seqoia developed it, most Native Americans had no writing. Were some of those people educated? of course. Many harvard PhDs would starve to death if you put them in a 40,000 acre forest alone and with no modern communication devices. IN that situation, those men would be UNEDUCATED. Now a Shawnee or Huron in the same situation would probably have been far more educated on how to feed himself, make a shelter, and find his way back to his people



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    In answer to the question "Is taxation slavery"? No its not but if one is taxed to the point where said income is made just for the said taxation then yes it is.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    he is correct to some extent. There were master craftsmen who could not read. I doubt the men who forged the finest katana in Japan were much good at reading. However, they were highly educated in making iron into folded steel, and and what temperature (done by color) steel needed to be brought to in order to create the best edge and the strongest sword.

    In modern society, it is difficult to believe someone could be educated without being able to absorb written information. But many societies, in the course of history, had very wise individuals who could not read. If I recall correctly, until Seqoia developed it, most Native Americans had no writing. Were some of those people educated? of course. Many harvard PhDs would starve to death if you put them in a 40,000 acre forest alone and with no modern communication devices. IN that situation, those men would be UNEDUCATED. Now a Shawnee or Huron in the same situation would probably have been far more educated on how to feed himself, make a shelter, and find his way back to his people
    Turtle, it has nothing to do with that. She was asking about the actual education level as in schooling. He said it was on par and posted the article as proof. The article actually disagreed with his assessment.

    He also said literacy = education, and the proof he posted said it does not.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    In answer to the question "Is taxation slavery"? No its not but if one is taxed to the point where said income is made just for the said taxation then yes it is.
    I saw something today that noted if the dems really want to reduce the deficits and not make the middle class pay any more and pay for obama care those making over 200K a year will have to pay rates around 75%. Some Union turd demanded that rate as well. That is enslavement.



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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Turtle, it has nothing to do with that. She was asking about the actual education level as in schooling. He said it was on par and posted the article as proof. The article actually disagreed with his assessment.

    He also said literacy = education, and the proof he posted said it does not.
    I was going by the quoted comment

    When I was accepted into two top colleges-my father, a top graduate of the Yale School of engineering-reminded me to never confuse being intelligent with being well educated for many people who are well educated are not intelligent and many brilliant men have had little in the way of schooling.

    education includes schooling-but it is much more than that.



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