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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Yes, because we all know that without the government at every level being involved in your life and making decisions for you is such a terrible thing to contemplate.
    That is exactly what I said in Italian. It must be Italian because I was speaking about libertarians and said nothing about government.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    You know, if you really think taxation is slavery you could always move to a country that doesn't have any taxes.

    Oh! Wait! That's right! Now I remember! No such country has ever existed in the history of mankind!

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    I 100% disagree with the confederacy in believing that slavery was up to each individual state. Each man is created equal and has equal protection under the constitution at the national level. No man can be the property of another man.

    But the confederacy believed it was the states' rights. The war was about states' rights. The confederacy was created to promote states' rights against the federal government and that's what the flag represents historically, to the educated man. They were wrong in this particular instance, yes. But overall, their philosophy was not to fight for slavery. It was to fight for their property (that they had grossly mislabeled).
    given that their "property" was slaves, the flag respresents the right to own slaves. and yes, they were fighting to maintain those slaves and their economic status.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Well, WW2 wasn't specifically about killing Jews either but you know, when people see the Nazi flag that's what they think of.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Hmmm, "mislabeled property rights"
    i am wondering just how educated the typical confederate soldier was.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by fredmertz View Post
    I 100% disagree with the confederacy in believing that slavery was up to each individual state. Each man is created equal and has equal protection under the constitution at the national level. No man can be the property of another man.

    But the confederacy believed it was the states' rights. The war was about states' rights. The confederacy was created to promote states' rights against the federal government and that's what the flag represents historically, to the educated man. They were wrong in this particular instance, yes. But overall, their philosophy was not to fight for slavery. It was to fight for their property (that they had grossly mislabeled).
    In other words, you don't think two wrongs make a right. Understandable, even though I disagree. There is no reason that flag cannot stand for more than one thing and have multiple meanings, all of which are right.
    Last edited by tacomancer; 07-12-10 at 01:19 PM.

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Am I the only one who finds it funny that the guy with a confederate flag on his avatar is whining about "slavery"?
    You're the only one since Old Glory had slavery, genocide, and other crimes against humanity done by people under its banner. Is Old Glory a symbol of those things?

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Since the 14th Amendment prohibits slavery of any kind does income, consumption based, and sale taxes a form of slavery that economically ties a person to the government and by default the poor?

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    To me, the welfare system is the slavery, and taxation is coerced/forced participation of the productive by a government who is addicted to money.
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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Well, WW2 wasn't specifically about killing Jews either but you know, when people see the Nazi flag that's what they think of.
    So you are defending the NAZIS?

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    Re: Is Taxation Slavery?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i am wondering just how educated the typical confederate soldier was.
    Robert E. Lee, General of all the Confederate armies was a West Point graduate.

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