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    Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Do you believe that our social and economic systems are an example of functional meritocracy?

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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    If there was an Other I would have voted that. Under the current system, no, it's not a meritocracy since it's now corporatist. Before the government got involved in all the things they don't have the delegated power to be in I would say that it was.

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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    If there was an Other I would have voted that. Under the current system, no, it's not a meritocracy since it's now corporatist. Before the government got involved in all the things they don't have the delegated power to be in I would say that it was.
    I am referring to today.

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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Yes, but less so than in the past.

    As far as I can tell, in past years it was easier to improve yourself, as opposed to current times.
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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Generally yes

    But not as much as quite a few other countries. A fair degree of a person's success in the US is determined by their parents economic standing. When compared to Canada, continentall europe (especially places like Sweden and Norway) the amount of social mobility from lower economic levels to higher economic levels the US is lower.
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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Overall, I think it isn't as too many things get in the way, such as unequal starting points in life, unequal opportunities in life, the fact that some get cancer while others do not, etc.

    Not that we will ever really be able to fix those problems, but I do think they get in the way and make the playing field uneven.

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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Do you believe that our social and economic systems are an example of functional meritocracy?
    They're trying to become that as far as Washington goes. . .in the mid 1900's deciding to give more creed to merit over other things.

    But it's still largely a "who you know" connection network.
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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    It is of course a representative democracy (aka republic) where it legally needs to be. Beyond that - it's cronyism (yeah, I just wikipedia('d) that!).

    cronyism:
    is partiality to long-standing friends, especially by appointing them to positions of authority, regardless of their qualifications. Hence, cronyism is contrary in practice and principle to meritocracy.

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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I am referring to today.
    No today we are not a meritocracy ... we're a welfare state.
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    Re: Is the United States an example of a meritocracy

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Do you believe that our social and economic systems are an example of functional meritocracy?
    Socially- No, you can be a complete dick head and get pretty far.
    There seems to be no high standard of manners in this world.

    Economically- Sort of, there are times when complete baboons get high up because of connections.
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