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    9 39.13%
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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    No taxation without representation

    Was that not a rally cry of the American Revolution

    That 7 year old buying candy is getting taxed (sales tax), the 15 year working at Burger King is paying FICA
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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I agree about that concerning gays-just as gun owners should have the only say about gun laws? Hunters about bag limits? or net tax payers about tax rates.
    And welfare recipients about welfare laws/benefits. See where this is heading? Niche voting, with each issue only addressed by the interest group. Problem is, each issue affects other people, involved in the issue or not.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    And welfare recipients about welfare laws/benefits. See where this is heading? Niche voting, with each issue only addressed by the interest group. Problem is, each issue affects other people, involved in the issue or not.
    nah, those being given welfare should have no say in how much others pay.



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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    A fair point, but I'd like to point out that back when there was Republican voting the state was involved a whole lot less in the lives of the people then it is today. If the issues were clearly related to the things the government is clearly defined to having a role in, by the Constitution, would you still hold that same view?
    Problem is, the US is vastly different than it was in 1800. Because of that fact, yes, I would have the same view, even if we are talking about things that the government has a clearly defined role in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    No taxation without representation

    Was that not a rally cry of the American Revolution

    That 7 year old buying candy is getting taxed (sales tax), the 15 year working at Burger King is paying FICA
    no representation without taxation and those who are net tax consumers shouldn't have a say



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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    nah, those being given welfare should have no say in how much others pay.
    Those being given welfare should absolutely have a say in what benefits they receive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no representation without taxation and those who are net tax consumers shouldn't have a say
    I dont recall the rally cry saying anything about net tax consumers.

    Besides an 18 year old working at KFC, who is out of school living at home with mommy and daddy is paying more in taxes then he/she gets back. So they would get to vote, but 70 year olds on SS would not.

    A sound idea, I think not.
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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    When the 13 independent colonies were freed from the grip of Great Britain, the standard voting practice was done with public votes by land owners. The thinking was that those that actually owned land had a stake in the welfare of the city/county/state/country they resided in and to prevent masses of people from voting themselves largesse from the land owners. This was the way voting was done up until the 1820's when the Whig and Democratic parties platformed for change to allow all white males to vote and was passed in time for Andrew Jackson to be elected. This is why I prefer to call the Republican method of voting.

    The current way of voting is that everyone can vote that is 18 and above. This had lead to a large warfare/welfare state where the key issues aren't filled with substance, but about who can redistribute the wealth of the property owners into the pockets of the non-property owners.

    Which do you prefer?
    I prefer contributors to be allowed to vote.
    That is not based on gender, race, religion etc.

    So one who does not add value or contribute in some quantifiable form to the, shouldn't be voting.
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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I prefer contributors to be allowed to vote.
    That is not based on gender, race, religion etc.

    So one who does not add value or contribute in some quantifiable form to the, shouldn't be voting.
    It is very short-sighted to consider money as the only quantifiable form of contribution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Republican vs. Democracy Voting

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    It is very short-sighted to consider money as the only quantifiable form of contribution.
    Money isn't the only way a person can contribute.
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