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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    One of the following three


    A flat income tax on all income over a specified amount. Income being any and all things including dividends, interest income, rental income wages, gifts etc. No deductions except for childern

    A sales tax on most goods and services. Exclusions for basic foodstuffs, and primary residences (either rent or when purchased

    A flat asset tax. For example a 1% tax on all assets from homes to, stocks bonds, valuable art, or collectables
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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    A progressive income tax is best because it taxes those who can most afford it. They also benefit the most from the commons, paid for by taxes, they use to generate their wealth.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    the fairest is a consumption tax for a couple of reasons:
    1. it will be generally progressive in nature; those who make more, spend more.
    2. it's almost a voluntary tax; you only pay on that percentage of your wealth that you choose to spend. as a social construct, this will thus create the least amount of tension. currently charges that 'the rich don't pay their fair share' or 'half of Americans parasitically live off the other half' are utilized by demagogues to set Americans against each other.
    3. because consumption is generally more stable than income, taxing it will reduce the damage done to the US fiscal status by business cycles and the inevitable social damage and distrust that goes along with it. no one need blame each other for the loss of revenue.

    in addition there are several moral benefits to a consumption tax vis an income tax. if you want more of something, subsidize it. if you want less of it, tax it. taxing employment lowers employment and makes it more difficult for people to support themselves and their families. taxing consumption, however, provides an incentive for people to save and invest rather than overconsume via debt (which our current system has done). Liberals are upset that Americans consume a larger per capita share of the worlds' resources; well, this is a way to counteract that. Conservatives claim that you have to save in order to invest or you (and the economy) becomes dangerously exposed. Lowering American consumption and increasing our savings will make us more economically stable, and will reduce the need for social safety nets. Though I don't think that government should be in the business of picking winners and losers in the economy; the taxing of goods known to be harmful (cigarettes, alcohol, gambling) has been part of our society for a while, and there is no reason why taxing such items more wouldn't reduce their consumption and some of the problems they solve.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    A so-called "progressive" tax is actually regressive, since it punishes accomplishment.

    A regressive tax it as blatantly unfair as the "progressive" tax, but different, in that the current system provides more services to the poor so there's no reason the poor shouldn't pay more in taxes.

    A flat percentage tax depends on how "income" is defined, and that definition can be as "fair" or as "unfair" as anyone wishes to make it.

    A flat dollar tax is just bizarre and yet, how much fairer can it be, under the constraint of the Fourteenth Amendment that everyone have "equality before the law"? Take the national spending burden, divide it by the number of people in the country, and that's their share. If they can't pay, it should be deducted from their share of the next year's handouts before they can recieve any.

    I kinda like it.

    But, actually, a uniform retail-point sales tax on non-food items (alcoholic beverages are not food, nor is candy,processed snack foods, soft drinks, energy drinks, etc.) could be the fairest method of all, and it's not on your list. The 16th Amendment must be repealed before any national sales tax is imposed.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Progressive tax.
    Since you identified the most unfair of the unfair tax schemes possible as being most fair in your opinion, perhaps you can illuminate why you hold this false position?

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    fairness has no meaning since it is twisted beyond all recognition

    the most fair tax is a use tax. You pay for what you use.

    the second fairest tax is a consumption tax-everyone has to pay it and the more you engage in transactions, the more you pay. a gasoline tax is a form of that as is a sales tax

    the next fairest tax is a flat tax--true, many people end up paying more than they use just as many pay for far less than they use but the advantage of this tax is that politicians cannot pander to non tax payers or low bracket tax payers with promises of more handouts paid for by those in higher brackets

    a progressive income tax is the worst and least fair because those who pay the most taxes are held hostage by the majority of voters who can continue to vote up the taxes on teh top bracket in order to loot their wealth

    under a progressive tax, the state of having to pay far more than what you use is accentuated.

    morally, no one should have to be forced to care for someone unless the former is responsible for the plight of the latter. to claim that it is fair to make someone shoulder the responsibility of another is clearly specious
    Bravo!
    I suppose consumption and use taxes as the ONLY source of taxes!

    If I don't want to pay taxes - I limit my consumption and use. . . simple.
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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Since you identified the most unfair of the unfair tax schemes possible as being most fair in your opinion, perhaps you can illuminate why you hold this false position?
    Ask me in a way that doesn't show what an obviously biased partisan hack you are and I may.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Progressive.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    It seems like the people here who feel like punishing success (aka progressive) seem to ninja in here with their liberal vote and smokescreen out just as fast without an input of why they would do that.

    Until I hear otherwise, the default answer is "they're rich, I'm not, and I'm jealous".

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