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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Article I Section IX Clause IV

    No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

    They said it and codified into the supreme law of the land. They believed in a meritocracy where those that deserved wealth would earn it and those that didn't work to better themselves would not. A lot of famous and rich people started with nothing to end up becoming billionaires and presidents. They advanced themselves based upon their merit alone.
    Thats it I'm going libertarian.. no taxes for anyone. If you want to overburden the poor then we should skip libertarianism and go for anarachy. Why the hell not working poor won't be that much worse off.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I don't think that the constitutional architects has the L curve in mind when they wrote that. It would be interesting to see that they say unambiguously where poor should pay the same taxes as the ultra rich.

    That is an interesting video.

    According to that, it would seem the income tax targets the vast majority whose income is $1,000,000 or less per year, as those with the greater wealth don't actually earn income in any great amounts.

    Is the current incarnation of the income tax fair?
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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    OMFG.. go away you comunist totalitarian. I don't know where you guys come from but income redistribution in America has already been tryed and none liked it. Go back to russia!
    you need a new schtick kid-that one wasn't funny to start with.



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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    That is an interesting video.

    According to that, it would seem the income tax targets the vast majority whose income is $1,000,000 or less per year, as those with the greater wealth don't actually earn income in any great amounts.

    Is the current incarnation of the income tax fair?
    Well as a percent the top 10% own roughly 70% of the wealth in america. Certainly the L curve is not a result of redistributive efforts.


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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Thats it I'm going libertarian.. no taxes for anyone. If you want to overburden the poor then we should skip libertarianism and go for anarachy. Why the hell not working poor won't be that much worse off.
    I'm not a libertarian, but I am a Constitutionalist. The reason why the system for taxes was done the way it was is to allow the states to interpose themselves against unfair taxation done by the federal government. Under the way the founding fathers had taxation done was the money was collected by the state government and sent to Washington DC. However, Congress of the United States had to spell out exactly what they needed the money for to the states and the people. If the people and the states didn't like the bill they would not pay their taxes and the federal government could do nothing about it. This kept the federal government in check.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    OMG your a socialist parisite. Go back to russia you commie welfare bum. No one likes socialist parisites.. its already been done and none likes it..
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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Well as a percent the top 10% own roughly 70% of the wealth in america. Certainly the L curve is not a result of redistributive efforts.

    For that matter, even a "flat tax" income tax rate would tax the richest less than what the tax rate percentage of what they actually take in per year would be.

    As they aren't actually earning "income"....
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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

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