View Poll Results: Which tax system is most 'fair'?

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  • Progressive Tax

    90 42.25%
  • Regressive Tax

    0 0%
  • Flat Percentage Tax Rate

    104 48.83%
  • Flat Dollar Tax

    5 2.35%
  • Other

    14 6.57%
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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That's just plain stupid. LEts get rid of a tax system that lets the non payers vote up the taxes of the payers
    I should start a thread to talk about the merits of the republican voting system versus the democratic one... I'll edit this post with the link to the right forum....

    *runs off to start a new thread*

    EDIT: Link to the new thread.
    Last edited by The_Patriot; 07-11-10 at 10:23 PM.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    wrong again-your needs should not affect my tax bill. I don't pay more for a car because of your needs-I should not pay more for government services. and as I noted before, we net tax payers would have never agreed to a government where we are forced to pay for people like you.
    Welfare bum.. the rich should pay their fair share and not dump it on the poor.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Progressive taxation is the only "fair" tax because of the axiom of needs being cost into the equation.
    Nope, it's not and is wholly unAmerican since the country was founded upon the principles of fair taxation.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    You used the word intellegent.. educated snob. Go away no one wants educated people talking about government. We don't need your totalitarian government it's already been tryed and no one likes it.. go back to russia you commie!
    one of the most interesting concessions of "I have lost this argument" I have ever seen



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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Nope, it's not and is wholly unAmerican since the country was founded upon the principles of fair taxation.
    uhh I am not going to endlessly argue the same points over and over but if you insist what you need to do is debunk my argument entirely.

    Well I think what you have to consider matters of fairness in a particular way to see no taxation as the most fair.

    No taxation would result in no government and anarchy outright. It would be a disaster.

    The second fairest tax according to you based on flat taxation where everyone pays the same tax does not consider that finances in terms of having dollars to spend has a bottom. A flat tax hits the lowest income bracket far more then the upper income bracket. So according to this logic if you have less money then someone with far more wealth to pay for needs/wants, it is somehow fair for you to have less money available for needs. Because you do have less money for needs it creates smaller pool of wealth available for wants. The person with less money has to spend a larger percent of his money on needs then the person with more money. When a person works for money equivalent to the poverty line or less they spend a greater portion of their money on needs under a flat tax system. A flat tax disproportionately punishes low income.

    A progressive taxation does tax people with more total available money to spend then the people with less money to spend. However one only has to consider the means by which they attain that larger portion of wealth to reason they should indeed pay more. Many wealthy employ people who work for less then the poverty line.. so it is clear that the wealthy have created more wealth from people who are under huge income pressure in more of a parasitic manner then a symbiotic way the wealthy make wealth from the less fortunate. Many wealthy people don't do anything but invest their capital while the working poor are busy making them the money they live a privileged life from.

    A progressive tax makes it possible for the wealthy to re-contribute to society via public services that their less fortunate social counterparts should indeed benefit from. A progressive taxation is the most fair considering the costs of needs on the lowest income bracket. More importantly from an economic sense in a consumer economy it makes sense for the wealthy to want consumers to have money to spend.

    I personally think libertarians need to re-evaluate their idea of what fair is.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    one of the most interesting concessions of "I have lost this argument" I have ever seen
    You said concessions.. go away and stop using smrt words rich turtle.

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Your smrt.. you must be rich.

    EDIT:be my friend.
    I will be.


    EDIT: buy me something today and invest in a friendship with me

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Nope, it's not and is wholly unAmerican since the country was founded upon the principles of fair taxation.
    socialists, parasites, wealth haters, dependency addicts etc hate the fact that others do better than they do. They also hate the founders and the constitution (as it is really written) because the founders were mostly the cream of the crop of colonial society-proud accomplished men who made it to the top and wanted to create a society where men like them would always be on the top. To think they wanted a society where the untalented, the unambitious and the un educated would be able to confiscate their wealth is inconceivable



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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I will be.


    EDIT: buy me something today and invest in a friendship with me
    Oh.. me stupd I have no peoples to tlk to. How much an hour?

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    Re: Which tax system is most 'fair'

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    You said concessions.. go away and stop using smrt words rich turtle.
    you have not earned the ability to tell me-or anyone else to leave. are you too poor to afford an A?



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