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Note to the board.. although TD quotes my posts....cause and effect apparently is not your strong point. America became the greatest nation in the world before we had a massive welfare state.
Self respect doesn't come from being addicted to the dole and beholden to your Dem masters
how are you paying my share of the taxes? THat is a major laugher
Still no answers to Them.
Basically his Problem (as I said)
What's "Fair" in the most simplistic/Brutal sense DOESN'T WORK.
Some people will end up with all the marbles (thx), unless mitigated by the govt.
me said:We've had "fair' throughout the history of humanity.
Some people for reason of IQ, knack, or other advantage (including inheritance), end up with all the marbles.
Look back at the planet 500 years or 5000 years.
What would happen is a system of Lords and Serfs.. landowners/servants/slaves.
Or look back at this very country 100 years and Why they instituted the income tax in the first place; The robber barrons Rockefeller, Morgan, Carnegie, etc. It was just to tax the top few percent.
While men in virtual indenture servitude worked in mines, rail gangs, etc.
Then look a THIS country in the 1950's through the 1980s when the top marginal rate was a "Communist" 50%-91%. We grew like crazy with less income disparity.
Why bring in "Russia" .. we have US!
The countries with the highest GDPs are the most 'socialist'. EU and Scandinavia. (and Japan)
"Fair" will end up in democracy voting a better distribution.. or a revolution. As it always has.me said:First let's be clear.
If anyone is paying for anyone else tax-wise.. it's me for you.
[unlike you] I understand the economy/manage money and have been paying top rates when they were astronomical.
Second.
You didn't/Couldn't answer me.
Because as I pointed out.. what's "fair" (in the most brutal/simple sense) doesn't work.
You remember. Serfs and Castles.. JP Morgan, Rail gangs, and 500 servants.
The whole expanse of history.
That's your basic problem. How do you solve it?
Put 85% of the country on the whim of charity or let them have some self respect?
Alas. we're [eventually] a democracy and even tho some are really stupid (poor AND conservative), they have/will eventually distribute the money so the majority can live. Ahh democracy.
You couldn't answer either when I pointed out this countries greatest growth and world ascendency was it's highest tax rates; During the Cold War. Destroying your "Communist" ploy.
Last word away.. but you can't fight the simple truth.
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