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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    actually, what he's denying is, from what i've read, your implication that radical christians are of the same sscale, and equivalent to, radical muslims.
    Except I never said that, and in fact, stated that they weren't. (See post 77)

    As I pointed out earlier in this thread, Black Dog took something I never said or implied and then decided to argue against that instead.

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Man! You are just the most stubborn guy aren't you? Can't ever admit that there may be gray areas, can't admit you might be wrong?
    Lets see...

    I have admitted being wrong plenty of times and I don't lie. So wrong again.

    No grey area exists here....

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    #1 No place in the NT teaches or condones murdering in God's name, for any reason. It also does not condone breaking man's laws. In fact it says the exact opposite.

    #2 I think Gods laws are above mans. Of course none of those laws contradict or go against any of the laws in the US at all.

    So wrong on all counts. Now I can show you in the Koran, where conversion and subversion of governments is perfectly acceptable.
    No please explain again how they resemble each other??? I mean you are basically saying because an apple is a fruit, and an orange is a fruit, they must taste the same.

    The only gray area I see here is your attempt at bad logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Your whole attack on me has been based on this. Seriously, I've tried using little words, I've tried explaining it, and nothing seems to work. I don't know why I should keep trying.
    Already covered this above.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    You keep denying that there are Christians who abuse the Bible and think it allows them to do evil things, like that has never happened. That's just ridiculous.
    Please point out where I said anything so ridicules?

    Just because they are not comparable has nothing to do with an evil act being just that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    So, once more, you are proving my point that facts are meaningless to True Believers and that it is impossible to debate them.
    Yep no bigotry here.
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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Except I never said that, and in fact, stated that they weren't. (See post 77)

    As I pointed out earlier in this thread, Black Dog took something I never said or implied and then decided to argue against that instead.
    Actually you did...

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    No, and neither can a radical Christian.
    His comment...

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    actually, what he's denying is, from what i've read, your implication that radical christians are of the same sscale, and equivalent to, radical muslims.
    Is absolutely true.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Although it is useless to debate True Believers, please allow me to explain to others who understand logic and reason that "bigotry" means being biased against people for things they have no control over (race, religion, sex, etc) and for very personal beliefs (religion).

    It does NOT mean that you have to accept every single one of those beliefs. Prejudice means "pre-judging" -- being biased against someone without knowing a thing about them simply because of their race or religion, for instance.

    If a black person says something ridiculous and I argue with him, it does NOT mean I am bigoted or biased. A stupid point of view is a stupid point of view no matter your race or religion. That's not "pre-judging."

    So sorry that I have to explain basic word meanings here.

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    You have to define what is radical, which will vary from person to person and what a good American is, which will also vary.

    I personally think that anyone who believes in supernatural beings and creators is radical. I wouldn't consider a radical Christian a good American because they are typically some of the most close minded, Anti-Science, Homophobic, unintelligent people out there.

    I think a radical Christian is a fundamentalist one though, just my opinion.

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    I answered yes, because I've known some good Americans that were some pretty radical Muslims, yo.

    Anyways, this poll begs the question as to whether you believe that 'radical' defines a muslim as anti american. In which case youre merely asking can an anti american be a good american and youre basically saying nothing.

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