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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Anyone who is a radical would have a tough time being considered a good American. Now please define what is a good American? I know for a fact the founding fathers were considered terrorists and those like Jefferson condoned open rebellion.

    So I would like one of you to point out what is a "good American" because if you look at history, most would be considered "radical" in one way or antoher.

    Nice jab at Christians by the way. Wonderful use of bigotry.
    It's a jab at RADICAL Christians. Sorry you have a reading comprehension problem. Or are you saying all Christians are radical?

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Well not really considering these religious beliefs are founded on.. fairytale stories etc. So in one sense if you look at it that way they are all pretty radical.
    Do you have proof they are indeed a fairytale or that God does not exists? Didn't think so. Now I don't expect you to prove a negative, but I do expect you not to state opinion as fact.

    Nothing radical about being religious. In fact I could say you sound "radical" by the nature of your sweeping generalizations.
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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Does he pay taxes?
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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    It's a jab at RADICAL Christians. Sorry you have a reading comprehension problem. Or are you saying all Christians are radical?
    Please point out where the OP mentioned Christianity? Oh thats right he did not. Had nothing to do with his post or the thread.

    Please feel free to dance around the issue with more ad-homs.
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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Do you have proof they are indeed a fairytale or that God does not exists? Didn't think so. Now I don't expect you to prove a negative, but I do expect you not to state opinion as fact.

    Nothing radical about being religious. In fact I could say you sound "radical" by the nature of your sweeping generalizations.
    I was merely pointing out a perspective. It is debatable why people would want to organise society around a factitious deity without any empirical evidence to support it's existence, one may view that as "radical" in some way.

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Please point out where the OP mentioned Christianity? Oh thats right he did not. Had nothing to do with his post or the thread.

    Please feel free to dance around the issue with more ad-homs.
    My point, which was apparently obvious to everyone except you, is that RADICALISM is the problem, not being a Muslim. There are Muslims in America who are not radical in the slightest, and they are good Americans. And there are radical Christians who believe it's OK to shoot abortion doctors, protest army funerals with signs saying "God hates fags" and otherwise try to force their religion on everyone else in contradiction of the Constitution. They are not good Americans.

    I will remember in the future that you have a reading and comprehension problem though, and will adjust my posts accordingly.

    Now, I'm waiting for the apology for calling me a bigot.

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    My point, which was apparently obvious to everyone except you, is that RADICALISM is the problem, not being a Muslim. There are Muslims in America who are not radical in the slightest, and they are good Americans. And there are radical Christians who believe it's OK to shoot abortion doctors, protest army funerals with signs saying "God hates fags" and otherwise try to force their religion on everyone else in contradiction of the Constitution. They are not good Americans.
    He did not say anything about your general run of the mill Muslim, he said "radical" specifically.

    It happens every time someone mentions a Muslim situation. Oh but Christians did this, thats bull****. The number of radical Muslims vs almost anything else is huge. So it does not compare, and yet people still use it as a comparison every chance they get.

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    I will remember in the future that you have a reading and comprehension problem though, and will adjust my posts accordingly.
    Again with the ad-homs.

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    Now, I'm waiting for the apology for calling me a bigot.
    Oh I am sorry, it's not like you have said anything like this...

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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    No, and neither can a radical Christian.
    How so? I consider myself to be a "radical" fundamental Christian and my beliefs do not tell me to hate others or kill innocents. Radical Christian is not the same as radical Muslim.
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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I was merely pointing out a perspective. It is debatable why people would want to organise society around a factitious deity without any empirical evidence to support it's existence, one may view that as "radical" in some way.
    I agree with this statement.

    I did not agree with part of your statement making it sound like anyone who is religious is crazy in the initial post.
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    Re: Can a radical Muslim be a good American?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    This question begs to be asked....
    No, really it doesn't. Common sense tells us that any one can be a good American, based on how they act. It's not what you are in this country, it's what you do, or at least it should be. Those who pre-judge people based on what they are really suck.
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