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Thread: Define the Government's duty to the people?

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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    But I did pay, it's part of the aggregation ability of the government. They can collect "small" amounts of money from a large population and then use that money for something. Be it the military, the roads, etc. But it does require that we all pay. We aren't simply given these things, we have to pay for all those things. Nothing is free.
    That sounds pretty damn socialist to me...
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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That sounds pretty damn socialist to me...
    It really depends. There are certain necessities for government, such as military which can only be provided through tax dollars and backed by the People. The socialist thing is not limited to just things like infrastructure and military. Some other things such as welfare or what have you, you can probably start to ascribe a more "socialist" tone to it. Yet for the context of what we were talking about, it matters very little. These "privileges" we spoke of earlier are bought and paid for by us. Thus we own them, they are our property.
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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    A governments duty is whatever it political platform they are elected on.

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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    I think the duty of the government is to provide and enforce the natural rights of it's citizens and to do for the citizens what private individuals or organizations are incapable of doing or can't be trusted to do.

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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    A governments duty is whatever it political platform they are elected on.
    How the hell do you get that?

    And what, in the history of politics, would lead you to the belief that anything a political platform claims to be a goal is an actual goal, or even wish.
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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That sounds pretty damn socialist to me...
    I won't speak for him, but Ikari seems to be pretty minarchist and has been pretty consistent with that ideology. Despite what tea party rhetoric says, not every government service is socialist in nature. Basically, Ikari agrees that taxes do need to be paid to the government for certain services, he just argues which services the government should collect taxes to provide.

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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    I won't speak for him, but Ikari seems to be pretty minarchist and has been pretty consistent with that ideology. Despite what tea party rhetoric says, not every government service is socialist in nature. Basically, Ikari agrees that taxes do need to be paid to the government for certain services, he just argues which services the government should collect taxes to provide.
    I have commented before on the need for a sarcasm font.
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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I have commented before on the need for a sarcasm font.
    My ability to detect sarcasm online is zero. Often times I've responded to comments meant to be sarcastic as if they were serious. I'm sure I'll do it again in the not too distant future.
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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I have commented before on the need for a sarcasm font.
    Yeah, because that's so much easier to do than just put an "/s" at the end of your post.

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    Re: Define the Government's duty to the people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    A governments duty is whatever it political platform they are elected on.
    Aww crap. Then the duty of our government is to talk to the People like we're idiots, use only little sound bites and stump speeches, bitch and moan about the otherside while your side does nothing to remedy the problem, and continue bitching and moaning over the same problems for decades while misleading the people and performing duties and military interventions which the government was not empowered to make all while keeping up the facade of two parties, all the sound bites and stump speeches, while avoiding anything of any real consequence.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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