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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    I wonder how much of the US populace knows that "under God" was added so much later.

    The pledge was written in 1892. In 1923, the National Flag Conference called for the words "my Flag" to be changed to "the Flag of the United States", for the benefit of new immigrants. The words "of America" were added a year later, and the addition of "under God" was implemented in 1954.
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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    My guess is that the pledge was to the flag because there was actually one hanging in every classroom, back in the day.
    Doubtful. Bellamy originally wrote it as "my flag" instead of "the flag of the United states of America". He was interested in using smbolism as a tool of nationalism and pushing a socialist agenda.

    Personally, I love the fact that the pledge was written by a socialist and is most ardently defended by those who claim to despise socialism.
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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    I wonder how much of the US populace knows that "under God" was added so much later.

    The pledge was written in 1892. In 1923, the National Flag Conference called for the words "my Flag" to be changed to "the Flag of the United States", for the benefit of new immigrants. The words "of America" were added a year later, and the addition of "under God" was implemented in 1954.
    I was writing my previous post when you posted this one, so that's how the information got reposted. It's nice seeing someojne else who is aware of the histopry of the pledge.
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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    Tucker actually is the one that convinced me of which words I dislike more than "under god" in the pledge, and that's indivisible.

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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Tucker actually is the one that convinced me of which words I dislike more than "under god" in the pledge, and that's indivisible.
    connecting to the other thread, I have to say the "one nation" part is bothersome for me as well. It leads to groupthink.
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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    if people don't like it, don't say it.

    when i was in Scouts, we had to take an oath "on my honour, i promise that i will do my duty, to god, and to the queen of Australia, to help other people, and to live by the scout law"

    and if we weren't religious, we didn't say "to god", simple as that.
    Except we are talking about a pledge of allegiance to a country [U.S] designed to be secular, who added "under god" for purely spiritual / religious reasons [to separate us from the godless communists, as they said].
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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    Who here actually cares?

    The fact that we are literally pledging our allegiance to fabric bothers me more then any notion of God.
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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    We do not need a pledge, period.
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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    ''It's the fact that people say a prayer to the flag that I dislike. Too socialist for my tastes.''

    Praying to a flag is too nationalist, for my taste.

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    Re: Should the words "under God" be removed from the pledge?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    It would be the war on Christmas, all over again.
    If Christmas was replaced with 'winter solstace celebrations' or something like that, I would certainly have no problem with it. In fact, id be relieved at yet another sign that religion is been taken out of our main stream culture. People always resist change though, no matter what the logical arguments for it are.

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