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Thread: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    If someone can't be bothered to get to the polls either the morning before work or the evening after, then they're not interested enough to vote.

    Further more, election DAY should happen on ummm....what's the period of time called....it should happen on ONE DAY.

    No "early voting". How many votes did the Carnahan corpse get in 2000 in Missouri? Hmmmm?

    No "absentee balloting", for almost everyone except military servicemen and other government employees who are posted outside the country on official business, and for the truly bedridden who are still of sound mind. Absentee ballots should be closely hoarded so cheats like Al Franken can't steal another Senate seat.

    If a person is too lazy to learn how to read, no reason to presume he's learned how to study the issues. Can't read? Don't vote.

    If a person is on the government dole, he shouldn't be allowed near a ballot box. No reason at all he should get a say on how other people's money is spent.

    If a person can't show a valid ID proving he's a lawful citizen, and he's in a polling place, he should be arrested.

    If a person can't show two uninked thumbs when voting, he should be arrested for voting twice. Forget this "I voted" lapel sticker crap, get their thumb all inky so they can't cheat. That'll cut down on the number of Democrats sent to office in the future, too.

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    You suppose low voter turnout is seated in political apathy?
    Everyone I know manages to get to the polls if they want to.

    So, yes, if someone isn't going to the polls, it's because they're apathetic trash and no effort, not one single dime, should be expended to get them to vote.

    If people don't care enough to vote, don't force them.

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    But why should people who do educate themselves on the issues but have a strict schedule for their job be limited to only a few hours to have the opportunity to vote?
    Because there's no reason anyone should have to go out of their way to make their life easier for them.

    And that means the taxpayers aren't funding yet another goonion supported bogus federal holiday.

    But I'll make a deal.

    Dump that stupid January 15th holiday, right after Christmas and New Years, for a nice juicy day off a full month after Columbus Day, so it's expense neutral on the federal government, and I'll have no reasonable objections.

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    So you want to give people the choice on asking their supervisor to give them time to vote, which they may or may not do, or do early voting options, or go at some time when they can be off the clock, but you don't want to give them the additional option of voting any time during the day which would actually help them vote?
    They already possess the option of voting at any time during Election Day they wish.

    All they have to do is arrange their personal schedule to make it happen.

    Besides which, and this is far too complicated for some people to understand, why would everyone have to have a full day off to do something that takes less than twenty minutes to do?

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Everyone I know manages to get to the polls if they want to.

    So, yes, if someone isn't going to the polls, it's because they're apathetic trash and no effort, not one single dime, should be expended to get them to vote.

    If people don't care enough to vote, don't force them.
    Not everyone can get to the poles. I myself have missed elections because I was working. It isn't so much a "forcing" but rather a chance to consider things more in depth. To set aside a day to contribute to the political process. I believe part of the apathy around the democratic process in America is because people don’t take the time to think about things. I think having a day where people are repeatedly asked to consider the party platforms they have in front of them will be more engaging then... "oh I gotta hurry and vote ." then they just return to their regular duties. I think this would be a great way to increase engagement in democracy.

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Not everyone can get to the poles. I myself have missed elections because I was working. It isn't so much a "forcing" but rather a chance to consider things more in depth. To set aside a day to contribute to the political process. I believe part of the apathy around the democratic process in America is because people don’t take the time to think about things. I think having a day where people are repeatedly asked to consider the party platforms they have in front of them will be more engaging then... "oh I gotta hurry and vote ." then they just return to their regular duties. I think this would be a great way to increase engagement in democracy.
    I understand what your talking about but it's mostly wishful thinking.
    To be engaged in the political process and actually make a contribution people are going to have to start reading and understanding more of what they are voting for.

    A scheduled day off to vote isn't going to change that because the day you go to vote is already scheduled way ahead of time and if people aren't preparing then, they won't do it under your system.

    It's unfortunate but that is the way democratic systems work.
    That is part of the reason they don't last that long, it sucks but it's the truth.
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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    I don't see this providing any noticable boost in the amount of people that would vote while likely causing a negative on the economy if there's a forced holiday for everyone that day.

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I understand what your talking about but it's mostly wishful thinking.
    To be engaged in the political process and actually make a contribution people are going to have to start reading and understanding more of what they are voting for.
    Agree completely. People are too lazy to look up or research a candidates history/point of view (Even in todays world where access to information is relatively easy.) Categorizing candidates in parties may generalize a common agenda, but people need to understand what they are actually voting for. In todays world there are alot of cultural and foreign affairs that even common party members disagree with. It's a flaw in a 2 party system, but can be solved if people actually made an attempt to better their knowledge.

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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Do you think that creating a mandatory holiday for elections would increase voter turnout?
    I like the idea of a federal day off voting holiday. I do believe that if you really want to vote then nothing is going to stop you regardless if you have to work or stand in a long line to vote. At least with a federal holiday then there is no excuse.
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    Re: Mandatory holiday - Election Day

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    Agree completely. People are too lazy to look up or research a candidates history/point of view (Even in todays world where access to information is relatively easy.) Categorizing candidates in parties may generalize a common agenda, but people need to understand what they are actually voting for. In todays world there are alot of cultural and foreign affairs that even common party members disagree with. It's a flaw in a 2 party system, but can be solved if people actually made an attempt to better their knowledge.
    Yep, if people can't be bothered to get the information when it is piped into their homes and is at near instant access, giving them a day off ain't gonna fix that kind of apathy.
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