View Poll Results: Does man have a soul?

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  • Atheist/Agnostic and yes, he does

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  • Atheist/Agnostic and no, he does not

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  • Other belief system and yes he does

    14 23.33%
  • Other belief system and no, he does not

    2 3.33%
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    Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    As C. S. Lewis once said "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body."

    I don't know where souls fit in the greater scheme of world religions, but I know they figure quite prominently in Christianity. That led me to wonder; do people who don't believe in a deity still believe that man has a soul, it's what separates him from the animals, etc?

    I hope to see some incredibly wordy responses. I want to learn.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    I have seen no compelling evidence to suggest a soul, so without that I have no reason to believe in one.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Please be aware that I didn't ask the question from a place of thinking I already know the answer. Having said that - what separates man from the rest of the animals?

    I also wonder what people who believe in reincarnation call themselves (the proper title of such a belief system), and also if they believe that what goes from one life to the next is what is known as a soul.

    I should actually go read first, and see what the definition of soul is, and not as it applies to music.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    From Dictionary.com:

    –noun
    1.
    the principle of life, feeling, thought, and action in humans, regarded as a distinct entity separate from the body, and commonly held to be separable in existence from the body; the spiritual part of humans as distinct from the physical part.
    2.
    the spiritual part of humans regarded in its moral aspect, or as believed to survive death and be subject to happiness or misery in a life to come: arguing the immortality of the soul.
    3.
    the disembodied spirit of a deceased person: He feared the soul of the deceased would haunt him.
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    the emotional part of human nature; the seat of the feelings or sentiments.
    5.
    a human being; person.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    As C. S. Lewis once said "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body."

    I don't know where souls fit in the greater scheme of world religions, but I know they figure quite prominently in Christianity. That led me to wonder; do people who don't believe in a deity still believe that man has a soul, it's what separates him from the animals, etc?

    I hope to see some incredibly wordy responses. I want to learn.
    As much as I like many of C.S. Lewis's writing .. he was known to be quite politically conservative. Just sayin.

    As for the question .. I only get as religious as science will allow. Which is actually quite interesting. Quantum physics has come up with some really amazing discoveries and theories. I stumbled on this in university sometime ago I was looking for a reason to why things are etc, maybe even find god in some personal way. I had a problem with nothingness which made me think way to much. Years later I found this documentary that I sympathised with regarding the issue and I was surprised to find others had similar problems only much worse. I recommend this documentary to understand what I fell on some 15 years ago inadvertently.

    Dangerous Knowledge

    (I really really strongly recommend this documentary.. if you don't get the idea's experessed in the video from first viewing .. watch it again until you understand what is going on. It is really quite profound.)

    I have no religious faith I don't like blind faith in anything. Here you can find some really interesting documentaries, video clips etc.
    quantum physics - Google Search

    string theory.
    quantum physics string theory - Google Search

    My attempts at finding some rational religious reasoning led me to physics. I read a number of books on physicist and their discoveries from the 1600's to present date. It really is amazing stuff. Without discoveries in this field we wouldn't be communicating like we are right now. People dismiss it because they can't understand it all but computers, nuclear power, micro waves et el are all a result of discoveries made in physics.. ironically the original intent of many of these early thinkers was to find or know the mind of god only to find that what they discovered disproved the existence of that.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    No I don't. I don't think there is any evidence to indicate the existence of some immaterial entity. The complexity of the human brain is sufficient to explain our behaviors, just as the complexity of a cat's brain is sufficient to explain a cat's behavior, the complexity of an insect's brain is sufficient to explain an insect's behavior, and the complexity of a CPU is sufficient to explain a computer's behavior. I'm a fan of Ockham's Razor, which basically says don't assume anything you don't have to assume. Since we already know the biological driver of our thoughts and actions (i.e. the brain), I don't see any reason to assume the existence of something beyond that. For any gaps in our understanding of why we think and behave as we do, I'm much more likely to attribute them to flaws or limitations in our understanding of the brain, rather than the existence of a soul.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    "I don't know" would be an appropriate option to have in the poll ads1981.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    There is no evidence to support the factual existence of a soul, therefore I don't believe in one. Present convincing evidence and I'll change my mind.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Even as a little kid immersed in a religious upbringing, this and also the notion that humans would go to heaven were major hangups for roughly the same reasons. I distinctly remember wondering that if humans had a soul, then so too must other animals, every little ant, my hamsters, and my pet dog all should have so souls too, it seemed silly that somehow we were so different to the rest of the animals on the planet just because.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    No, I don't believe humans have souls, or any similar sort of immaterial or metaphysical part of us. I believe that our brains are what separate us from other animals, and that the degree of separation is not all that great in some cases.
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