I didn't say that something does not exist because it has not been analyzed yet, furthermore, the very fact that the natives have seen it and have used it means that it has in fact been analyzed, IE science has discovered it. Something does not exist if it can NOT be analyzed.That is the way scientific methodology works.
WTF are you talking about? The natives have knowledgeable use for them, means that science has discovered it.So those plants actually do not exist for this reason, even though natives have knowledgeable use of them.
Science - Science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is, in its broadest sense, any systematic knowledge-base or prescriptive practice that is capable of resulting in a correct prediction, or reliably-predictable type of outcome.In fact, the very way western medical science works is that is not considered to have curative properties UNLESS it has been proven with research. Even if hundreds of natives come forth and say they have folk uses, western medicine would never use those plants because science hasn't verified anything.
Knowledge and use of these plants means that science has discovered it.
It's not that the invisible heatless fire breathing dragon that lives in my garage hasn't been discovered yet it is that it can NEVER be discovered because the statement that it exists lacks any and all falsifiability the same as your claim that there is a soul.
Then they are as good as, according to scientific methodology. This is why science is not universally practical or useful.
Science is universally practical and useful, positive assertions that lack falsifiability are never practical or useful.
Wow, inductive reasoning is used all of the time in science for example to formulate a hypothesis.It is highly dismissive of things that it has not yet analyzed, and then makes existential assertions about the nature of reality. It relies strictly on deductive reasoning, when inductive reasoning offers much more practical, realistic uses.
There is plenty of actual scientific research which proves that near death experiences result from a massive release of dimethyltryptamine from the pineal gland along with various other neurochemical and psychological reasons.There is plenty of research ongoing into near death experiences in relation to out of body experiences. You cannot claim there is no work being undertaken. Rather, it is simply you who have done no research and thus are assuming there is none.
There is plenty of anecdotal evidence and preliminary research to indicate that consciousness can be separate from the physical body, even in death. Now, we cannot conclude that the philosophical term "soul" applies here, but there is definitely something within nature happening that we do not yet fully understand.
Please do explain how pointing out your classic appeal to popularity is in any way a reductio ad absurdum logical fallacy?Reductio ad absurdum.
The claim that there is a soul lacks any amount of falsifiability. That's my entire point, it can't be researched on. There is plenty of valid research into NDE's and it points towards psychological and neorochemical causation not metaphysical causation.Don't quote the dictionary at me like it means anything. This debate is subjective and you know it.
I think it's perfectly logical, based on the work that has already been done, that there is at least enough information recorded to start forming the groundwork theories for the existence of a soul. It will probably take science at least 100 years to catch up to natural phenomenon in that department, but the occurrences exist nonetheless. There is plenty of true testimony to demonstrate that something is happening. Only an absurd fool would dismiss it all and call it specious reasoning.
Science was not used to determine the earth was flat. In fact science determined that the earth was a sphere as far back as Pythagoris. In fact not only was the spherical shape of the earth known to the early Greeks but Eratosthenes actually determined the earths circumference around 240 BC. It was not scientists who came up with the flat earth theory it was theists like you whose holy books told them so.You're comparing the science of antiquity to now? There is a lot that science knows now that was "supernatural" back then. Plus the whole earth being flat thing. That's the thing about science... it holds everything as impossible until the research is done; in the modern world, it is taken a step further, and research that could change the minds of billions of people is held back for the status quo.
The displacement of space caused by mass.Thanks for bringing up General Relativity. Can you please tell me what gravity is?
Um, lol you obviously don't even know what General Relativity is, because General Relativity explains exactly what gravity is, that's what the General Relativity Theory does.No one seems to know. We can explain the effects of gravity, but we don't actually know what it is.
I don't even know where to begin. Quantum Mechanics can explain how two objects can exist in the same place at the same time, but I'm not entirely sure what this has to do with the existence of a soul.As for quantum physics, it actually can explain the soul through quantum entanglement, as I mentioned earlier. It would explain how consciousness can exist separately from the body.
It's being worked on. Saying "god done did it" doesn't work for some of us.Last time I checked there is no such thing. Yet.
That line is getting old. Do you have anything new to offer or are you just going to keep putting your fingers in your ears and shouting "la la la"?
I don't have beliefs I have evidence, you have faith you have beliefs.You are entitled to your beliefs but know that they are just that, beliefs.
I'm not ignoring anything except pseudoscience. There are working scientific hypothesis to explain NDEs and OBEs none of which point to the existence of a soul.You cannot concretely disprove the existence of the soul anymore than I can concretely prove its existence to you using your preferred system, which is science. I find it funny that you can wave your finger of logic at me yet you ignore an entire world of research that is ongoing into the realm of OBEs.
VICTORY IS MINE!!!! KTHXBAIBut by all means, keep trying to take the high road. I think you need to feel victorious more than I do.