View Poll Results: Does man have a soul?

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  • Atheist/Agnostic and yes, he does

    3 5.00%
  • Atheist/Agnostic and no, he does not

    27 45.00%
  • Other belief system and yes he does

    14 23.33%
  • Other belief system and no, he does not

    2 3.33%
  • BTSOOM/FIIK (beats the **** out of me/fvck if I know)

    10 16.67%
  • Cake or death?

    4 6.67%
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I've actually been dead before. And very near death on several occasions by the standard.

    When I was dead though it was the greatest experience of my life. I was in an operating room and I was flat lined, no heart beat no pulse no nothing. I was floating around in the room above the medical people that were freaking and trying to tell them everything is okay. I probably should have passed then but i did not.
    There are hundreds of near death experiences that people have told about. Some of them have been described on this site.

    I suppose it is possible that some of the near death experiences are made up, or imagined, but no doubt many of them are real.

    I have a friend who fell down a mountain. He didn't die, but thought he was going to. He told me about seeing "angels" on the way down. another friend encountered a climber who had been killed on Mount Shasta. He told of a woman and child in street clothes who told him to stay away, as the landslide was still coming down, and he could be killed himself. He wondered how they could have climbed such a mountain with no equipment. These people were soon nowhere to be found.

    Of course, anectotal incidents are not scientific proof. How there could be scientific proof, I'm not sure.

    Nevertheless, C. S. Lewis was right. I know that the soul exists, because I am one.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I was in an operating room and I was flat lined, no heart beat no pulse no nothing. I was floating around in the room above the medical people that were freaking and trying to tell them everything is okay. I probably should have passed then but i did not.
    I have a friend who ws near death for several days on a ventilator in an ICU about a year ago. He was "travelling" around the unit, privvy to some private conversations among staff, and was able to recount these stories after he regained consciousness with amazing accuracy. Really.

    It sounds like you have other things to do with your life for now.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    I feel as if my soul is part of the Earth and that it has always been and always will be. I have been in Nature and will forever more.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Proof that man has soul...

    That man was a drunkard and a woman beater.

    But he had soul. Just not when it came to treating others with respect.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you believe that the soul exists within its hardware (i.e. the brain) then I'm not sure I understand why you call it a soul at all. It sounds like we are in agreement that there is nothing beyond the physical processes of the brain and neural patterns...
    That is like saying that there is nothing beyond the physical processes of a CPU. The software itself is more than just the CPU running the program. The software exists conceptually in an immaterial way.

    A soul exists the same way that the Fibonacci sequence exists. If you write it down, then you can say it "exists" on the paper, but if you look closely you won't find one molecule of Fibonacci, you will just find a bunch of graphite. The sequence is represented in how the graphite is arranged, but if you burn the piece of paper, you won't have destroyed the Fibonacci sequence, because the sequence itself is an immaterial pattern of numbers.

    Similarly, the Moonlight Sonata can be played on the piano, but destroying the piano does not destroy the Moonlight Sonata, because it is an immaterial sequence.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    That man was a drunkard and a woman beater.

    But he had soul. Just not when it came to treating others with respect.
    Dont forget he was a crackhead too.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    I believe in souls. My beliefs are complicated, but they're closer to C.S. Lewis' idea that we don't have souls, we are souls-- except that I believe that the physical body is part of the soul.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    As C. S. Lewis once said "You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body."

    I don't know where souls fit in the greater scheme of world religions, but I know they figure quite prominently in Christianity. That led me to wonder; do people who don't believe in a deity still believe that man has a soul, it's what separates him from the animals, etc?

    I hope to see some incredibly wordy responses. I want to learn.

    P.S.: I'll be gone for the next 24-30 hours in honor of the 4th so will not be able to respond until my return.

    Anybody else out there with me, travel safe!
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I do not believe that a "soul" exists.
    How do we know you exist?
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How do we know you exist?
    Because I'm the one that broke your dinning room window.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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