View Poll Results: Does man have a soul?

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  • Atheist/Agnostic and yes, he does

    3 5.00%
  • Atheist/Agnostic and no, he does not

    27 45.00%
  • Other belief system and yes he does

    14 23.33%
  • Other belief system and no, he does not

    2 3.33%
  • BTSOOM/FIIK (beats the **** out of me/fvck if I know)

    10 16.67%
  • Cake or death?

    4 6.67%
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    Actually, I appreciate everybody taking the time and effort to write, especially those of you who thought it out and gave me clear, concise reasons with videos etc. (that means you, Gabriel). I don't know why anybody else weighed in. I already know what I think, and what those who think like me, think *for the most part*. I wanted to hear from the opposing view. "If not, why not", etc.

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    If you're going to equivocate, you're going to be puzzled. If you're going to use "a soul" as a synonym for "a person" then I don't believe people who express disbelief in souls mean it in the way you do, they mean disbelief in the typical alleged intangible aspect to a person that survives death. You should consider the conception they are rejecting, and you'll find yourself less puzzled.

    Its like when someone explains "god is love," that doesn't mean that someone who doesn't believe in any gods doesn't not believe in love.
    I don't think you understood my post. A human being is a soul. That "intangible aspect" of the human being is the human. The body is just something that the human inhabits, much as a driver controls a car. Once the body is no longer inhabitable, the soul no longer has one to inhabit, in much the same way a driver abandons a car than no longer operates.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    YAY! Good to see you, mister. Now you owe me a bag of jellybeans or some such for introducing you to your new playground.

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    Thanks for the props, Anarcho. My references are strictly drawn from the religious point of view. Oh, and yes, I am one of those Militant Atheist

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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    One bag of jellybeans on the way! Lol...
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    I have no idea, or in other words (or symbols): "BTSOOM/FIIK"

    I allow for the possibility that souls exists, but have no way to prove it.

    I also allow for the possibility that no such thing exists, but have no way to prove that either.

    This lack of provability seems an innate part of the whole idea, somehow.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I have no idea, or in other words (or symbols): "BTSOOM/FIIK"

    I allow for the possibility that souls exists, but have no way to prove it.

    I also allow for the possibility that no such thing exists, but have no way to prove that either.

    This lack of provability seems an innate part of the whole idea, somehow.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    To make this simple; if empirical evidence of a soul is found then I will change my mind.
    That still doesn't address my point. Basically you believe what the evidence supports and reject what the evidence does not support. While that may work most of the time, it effectively means you think that everything we don't have evidence for right now does not exist.

    A better stance would be, "Current evidence does not suggest a soul, however that does not equate to it not existing." Rummy was partially right when he said absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I have no idea, or in other words (or symbols): "BTSOOM/FIIK"

    I allow for the possibility that souls exists, but have no way to prove it.

    I also allow for the possibility that no such thing exists, but have no way to prove that either.

    This lack of provability seems an innate part of the whole idea, somehow.
    Yes it is a positive assertion which lacks falsifiability, it is a completely worthless assertion and holds equal validity and value to other unfalsifiable statements; such as, invisible dragons which breathe heatless fire live in my garage along with invisible pink unicorns.
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    A better stance would be, "Current evidence does not suggest a soul, however that does not equate to it not existing." Rummy was partially right when he said absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
    Your suggestion is invalid as it suggests that because evidence does not suggest invisible pink unicorns, that does not equate to them not existing. Absence of evidence may not be evidence, but it most certainly does not presume proof, either. Even after over one-hundred years, Russell's Teapot is still strokin'...
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    Re: Atheists/Agnostics/Other: Does man have a soul

    Quote Originally Posted by UAF View Post
    Your suggestion is invalid as it suggests that because evidence does not suggest invisible pink unicorns, that does not equate to them not existing. Absence of evidence may not be evidence, but it most certainly does not presume proof, either. Even after over one-hundred years, Russell's Teapot is still strokin'...
    For now we can safely assume that it does not exist considering all the evidence tends towards that direction and barring some unforseen new evidence be left wondering why so many people are suffering from the same strange shared delusion.
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