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    Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Many argue that we make police remind suspects of their constitutional rights in order to prevent police abuse and to make sure the police do not violate rights.Personally I feel that no one should remind you of your rights seeing how went to school. So why shouldn't politicians be required to recite the constitution before they write a law or vote for a new law/bill in order to make sure that they do not violate the constitution? After all they make law so shouldn't the people who write the laws be required to recite the bill of rights anytime they want to vote for or write a law? Surely if we make those who enforce the law remind suspects of their rights then surely a stricter similar standard should be applied to law makers.


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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    No.

    Memorizing or reciting anything does not mean anything other than you have memorized or recited something.

    I could learn the national anthem of Bolivia by heart but it doesn't mean I would agree with it or would follow it.

    Forcing people to do things to prove their "Americanism" or patriotism seems to me to be the exact opposite of what America is supposed to be about.

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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Many argue that we make police remind suspects of their constitutional rights in order to prevent police abuse and to make sure the police do not violate rights.Personally I feel that no one should remind you of your rights seeing how went to school. So why shouldn't politicians be required to recite the constitution before they write a law or vote for a new law/bill in order to make sure that they do not violate the constitution? After all they make law so shouldn't the people who write the laws be required to recite the bill of rights anytime they want to vote for or write a law? Surely if we make those who enforce the law remind suspects of their rights then surely a stricter similar standard should be applied to law makers.


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    No(please explain)
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    Absolutely.....even better, make them write it out longhand a hundred times every time they violate it.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    No.

    Memorizing or reciting anything does not mean anything other than you have memorized or recited something.

    I could learn the national anthem of Bolivia by heart but it doesn't mean I would agree with it or would follow it.

    Forcing people to do things to prove their "Americanism" or patriotism seems to me to be the exact opposite of what America is supposed to be about.
    We force law enforcement to remind suspects of their rights so why shouldn't law makers be reminded of the rights of their employers before making or voting for laws? This isn't about forcing people to prove their Americanism or Patriotism but to remind them of their duties.
    Last edited by jamesrage; 07-03-10 at 02:59 PM.
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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Honestly, what will reciting the Constitution do? It won't change anything, they know about the Constitution yet they chose to vote against it. With wishful thinking and denial, anyone can interpret the constitution however they want, so reciting it won't do much good.
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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    No.

    Memorizing or reciting anything does not mean anything other than you have memorized or recited something.

    I could learn the national anthem of Bolivia by heart but it doesn't mean I would agree with it or would follow it.

    Forcing people to do things to prove their "Americanism" or patriotism seems to me to be the exact opposite of what America is supposed to be about.
    I think you missed the point of this exercise, it is to remind them of their pledge, their duty, and their responsibility. It's also to inform them when they are violating the constitution by airing it out for all to see.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I think you missed the point of this exercise, it is to remind them of their pledge, their duty, and their responsibility. It's also to inform them when they are violating the constitution by airing it out for all to see.
    I think in a liberal's mind it is a Loyalty pledge for a politician to be reminded of their pledge, their duty, and their responsibility.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Many argue that we make police remind suspects of their constitutional rights in order to prevent police abuse and to make sure the police do not violate rights.Personally I feel that no one should remind you of your rights seeing how went to school. So why shouldn't politicians be required to recite the constitution before they write a law or vote for a new law/bill in order to make sure that they do not violate the constitution? After all they make law so shouldn't the people who write the laws be required to recite the bill of rights anytime they want to vote for or write a law? Surely if we make those who enforce the law remind suspects of their rights then surely a stricter similar standard should be applied to law makers.


    Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?
    Yes anytime they write a new law/bill/amendment to a bill.
    Yes anytime they vote for a new law/bill/amendment.
    No(please explain)
    Maybe/Other/I do not know
    I don't think it matters.

    We make them take an oath to uphold it, which the routinely violate and nothing happens to them.
    At this point, probably not.
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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Many argue that we make police remind suspects of their constitutional rights in order to prevent police abuse and to make sure the police do not violate rights.Personally I feel that no one should remind you of your rights seeing how went to school. So why shouldn't politicians be required to recite the constitution before they write a law or vote for a new law/bill in order to make sure that they do not violate the constitution? After all they make law so shouldn't the people who write the laws be required to recite the bill of rights anytime they want to vote for or write a law? Surely if we make those who enforce the law remind suspects of their rights then surely a stricter similar standard should be applied to law makers.
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    Re: Should politicians be forced to recite the constitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I think in a liberal's mind it is a Loyalty pledge for a politician to be reminded of their pledge, their duty, and their responsibility.
    Or maybe we recognize that even the most traitorous scum can memorize or read something and have it mean nothing to them.

    This is a meaningless exercise that will solve nothing.

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