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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magill View Post
    Call it what you want. Women have the right to choose what they do with their own body. Children have seperate rights once they are born. And men get to decide where they leave their sperm.
    That's just a lousy cop out.

    I support full equality for women, but when some women use this issue to extort men.
    It exposes the ugliness of your intentions.
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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magill View Post
    Call it what you want. Women have the right to choose what they do with their own body. Children have seperate rights once they are born. And men get to decide where they leave their sperm.
    1. It's not her body, DNA proves this.
    2. Unborn Children (legal term) have rights long before birth.
    3. Totally agree. Jigaloes don't get to choose whether or not they'll be losing a child or paying through the nose for the next 18 years. That's the price for not using judgment.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    That's just a lousy cop out.

    I support full equality for women, but when some women use this issue to extort men.
    It exposes the ugliness of your intentions.
    Using the word "extort" about child support, says some pretty ugly things too. Is that what you see children as? Just some way for a woman to get all your money?

    FTR you have no idea what *I* would do about child support. Many people legally give up rights to their child with the blessing of the mother. (and v/v)

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magill View Post
    So he can't force her to carry the child, he can't force her to abort, but she can sign away her rights? Maybe I am missing something, but if people want to do this, they already can.
    He can't force her to abort, but if he wants the baby, and is willing, and able to care for the child, then she can sign a contract divorcing her responsibility from the child once it's born. She may not be in full control, but he isn't either, since I don't think he should be able to divorce himself from responsibility for the child. It seems the fairest thing to do in my mind.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    What kind of guy sleeps with a woman who would kill his children,.... or before knowing ahead of time whether she would or not?
    The kind of guy that doesn't think much farther ahead than a few minutes. Or care much about consequences. The same can be said for women. Free love isn't free after all....

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    For Jerry.

    Here is something showing that a child support order can be placed on a guy before birth.

    http://www.childsup.ca.gov/Portals/0...58_english.pdf

    Just a pdf brochure.
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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magill View Post
    Using the word "extort" about child support, says some pretty ugly things too. Is that what you see children as? Just some way for a woman to get all your money?

    FTR you have no idea what *I* would do about child support. Many people legally give up rights to their child with the blessing of the mother. (and v/v)
    Well, that's what child support is used for in some circumstances.
    A means to an end.

    I've know a few that only wanted a child to get money.
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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    1. It's not her body, DNA proves this.
    2. Unborn Children (legal term) have rights long before birth.
    3. Totally agree. Jigaloes don't get to choose whether or not they'll be losing a child or paying through the nose for the next 18 years. That's the price for not using judgment.
    She is removing something from her body. That is why it is her body, her choice.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Well, that's what child support is used for in some circumstances.
    A means to an end.

    I've know a few that only wanted a child to get money.
    Well I have known (more than) a few men who get married have a few kids and then run off and avoid paying child support. Some people suck.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magill View Post
    Well I have known (more than) a few men who get married have a few kids and then run off and avoid paying child support. Some people suck.
    Yep and in that instance I support the full force of law going after them to collect the funds need to support those kids.
    One does not excuse the injustice of the other.
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