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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magill View Post
    If you don't think a man should be able to force the woman to carry a pregnancy. If you don't think a man should be able to force a woman to abort. And you don't think a man should be able to legally opt out of paying child support before the child is born, your position is really not any different than mine. I would like for you to explain to me how my view is more sexist than yours. Legally you and I seem to be on the same page, you just add a bunch of warm fuzzy suggestions, to your opinion. I am not against women giving up the child to the man, if that is what she wants to do.
    I don't think she should be able to get an abortion, if the father wants the baby, and is willing to take all of the responsibilities of said baby. But if a doctor says that there is a problem, and giving birth could harm the mother, then I think she should be given back all the power whether or not to have the baby.
    Also responding to 1069, maybe if there is a dispute over the paternity, then I think all rights over the baby should revert back to the woman, since she is the only known parent.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Chuz life, eh?



    You know, most real fathers would go AWOL if somebody was going to murder their child if they didn't.
    I mean, WTF? It's not like they're going to shoot you for going AWOL, and even if they did, is your life worth more than your kid's?
    What parent wouldn't risk life and limb to save their child from a hideous and imminent death?

    If anyone but you posted this,.. I would give them a more considerate response.

    As it's clear you don't seek to be considerate or appreciative of anything from me,...

    why bother?
    Last edited by Chuz Life; 07-03-10 at 01:49 AM.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Chuz life, eh?



    You know, most real fathers would go AWOL if somebody was going to murder their child if they didn't.
    I mean, WTF? It's not like they're going to shoot you for going AWOL, and even if they did, is your life worth more than your kid's?
    What parent wouldn't risk life and limb to save their child from a hideous and imminent death?

    That is exactly right. If that same woman said she was going to go kill his 9 year old (or whatever age) he would have went AWOL.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I think thats a big leap. And I don't see it as them deciding what to do to our bodies. Just deciding on whether or not to have to opportunity to have their child. They wouldn't be able to tell us how to give birth, or to give birth if a doctor told us there was something wrong, and giving birth could kill us. Also you have to consider, that how many guys would be willing to enter a single parent situation with a new born? It wouldn't be sexist men, wanting to control women. It would men who would be loving fathers to their kids,( on the majority) and I can't find anything wrong with that.
    We will have to agree to disagree that it is a big leap. Keep in mind that there is a strong group of conservatives in this country that have been wanting to overturn a womans right to choice every since it was granted.

    Do you wish to see Roe V/S Wade overturned? Cause the things being talked about is a gateway.

    If a man is able to take me to court and make me have his baby so he can raise it? That is pretty much setting us back a long ways in reguards to rights about our bodies.
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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I don't think she should be able to get an abortion, if the father wants the baby, and is willing to take all of the responsibilities of said baby. But if a doctor says that there is a problem, and giving birth could harm the mother, then I think she should be given back all the power whether or not to have the baby.
    Also responding to 1069, maybe if there is a dispute over the paternity, then I think all rights over the baby should revert back to the woman, since she is the only known parent.
    okay so you're for the father having rights over the womans body. It's never 50/50. One side has to get their way. At best its 51/49. If I am sexist (in your opinion) for not wanting a man to have a legal right over a womans body, that is fine with me. lol

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I don't think she should be able to get an abortion, if the father wants the baby, and is willing to take all of the responsibilities of said baby. But if a doctor says that there is a problem, and giving birth could harm the mother, then I think she should be given back all the power whether or not to have the baby.
    Also responding to 1069, maybe if there is a dispute over the paternity, then I think all rights over the baby should revert back to the woman, since she is the only known parent.
    There will always be a "dispute over paternity", in a world where males have the legal right to prevent females from ending unwanted pregnancies.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magill View Post
    That is exactly right. If that same woman said she was going to go kill his 9 year old (or whatever age) he would have went AWOL.
    In the case of a 9 year old, Magill.... I wouldn't have to worry that the court or lawyers would be defending her right to kill the child.

    (thus the point of this thread)

    As my girlfriend was only late,... hadn't even confirmed she was pregnant,... what was i to do? Leave my post, get arrested and sent to the brig?

    How much could I defend my child from jail?

    Please don't stoop to 10's tactics of twisting and personal attacks here.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    We will have to agree to disagree that it is a big leap. Keep in mind that there is a strong group of conservatives in this country that have been wanting to overturn a womans right to choice every since it was granted.

    Do you wish to see Roe V/S Wade overturned? Cause the things being talked about is a gateway.

    If a man is able to take me to court and make me have his baby so he can raise it? That is pretty much setting us back a long ways in reguards to rights about our bodies.
    I definitely don't want to see Roe v Wade overturned. I just think that the decision is for both parents. And I don't think it would be setting us back, but helping men have a say in their kid, from day one. In my plan I think it gives the woman every out in a situation in which where the baby could be dangerous to her body, but still be fair to the father. IMO I really don't think that many dads would choose this route, because there are easier ways to have a kid, than to be a single father. Though I still think it's his right. I really have spent alot of time thinking about this issue, because I remember when I first heard about abortion, and that it was solely my decision, at first I thought "cool, if I ever get pregnant, I can just end it without anyone else's say" but the more I thought about it, the more I thought it was unfair to the father. I think he should have rights too, because while it is my body, it is our baby.
    This is also why I think sex education, and access to contraceptives should be vastly increased, because that would reduce alot of these difficult situations.
    Oh, and also I think the mother should be able to take the morning after pill without his consent, because that isn't abortion. Just wanted to throw that out there.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuz Life View Post
    In the case of a 9 year old, Magill.... I wouldn't have to worry that the court or lawyers would be defending her right to kill the child.

    (thus the point of this thread)

    As my girlfriend was only late,... hadn't even confirmed she was pregnant,... what was i to do? Leave my post, get arrested and sent to the brig?

    How much could I defend my child from jail?

    Please don't stoop to 10's tactics of twisting and personal attacks here.
    People are going to debate your personal situation if you bring it up in debate.
    I wont say anymore in regards to your situation though. Really it was more on my own experience of having a mid-late term miscarriage that brought me to the reality that people, even anti choice people, regard fetuses different than born children.
    Last edited by Magill; 07-03-10 at 02:23 AM.

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    Re: Does the father have a right to stop an abortion?

    I couldn't respond to the poll because my answer is multi-leveled. Mother's choice? Yes. Should the father be considered? Yes. Is it the right choice to abort? For me, always no, no matter what. God chooses for me. Do I expect everyone else to believe as I do? Of course not. Legal or illegal? The government should not have the power to tell a woman what to do with her body. I DO however believe in personal responsibility and since just about everyone knows that pregnancy can occur with protected/unprotected sex, then maybe it would be prudent to consider the child BEFORE this happens.
    Last edited by Pitwolfy; 07-03-10 at 02:28 AM.
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