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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think it should be a mandatory part of school, but that kids can opt out of saying it if they chose to. Can we force foreign exchange students to pledge allegiance to our flag? Should we force anyone to pledge allegiance?
    In bold. That doesn't make it mandatory, if they can opt out.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    I pledge allegiance to the mighty dollar and a one world government for which it stands. One world, under mammon, with liberty and justice for only the rich.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I also find it interesting that this view is held by a lot of tea party activists who, at the exact same time, argue that we should be saving our guns, protesting the government, and actively rebelling against it)
    It is not that interesting. It is what one would expected of an establishmentarian astroturf campaign.

    What is odd are people talking about what the pledge "means" because I think if anyone gave it enough thought they'd realize this pledge is so antithetical to the idea of liberty and free thought that it would be more suitable to ban it from public schools than require it there.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Any country that has to force the young - well, anyone - to pledge allegiance before they can even comprehend what the words mean is not a country I want to be a part of. Pledging allegiance, to anything, should always be a voluntary act. If it's not a voluntary act, then it's a superficial, meaningless waste of breath and to me, a complete dishonor of what this country stands for and all the people who have died defending it. I can't think of a bigger slap in the face to every person who has died for this country than to allow it to become an authoritarian regime that forces its youth to recite an allegiance like drones.
    I was going to reply with a "yes", until I read this. It really is odd that we are asking our kids, basically to take an oath, before they can truly agree to anything.

    Perhaps the pledge would be much more meaningful if it was said for the first time at graduation ceremony from high school. It would be far more profound, then, really.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    I think it should be said in Church.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    It wasn't before it's creation, and they didn't add "Under God" until what, 1948? So - no. I don't believe it should be mandatory.

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Yes, it should be.
    Why do you believe it should be?

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Like maybe the actual history of this nation.
    From whose perspective?

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Why should it be under anything? They put that in much later.

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by ads1981 View Post
    From whose perspective?
    The factual one.
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