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Thread: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Kind of interesting that 8 people voted yes but not one comment on why.

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Kind of interesting that 8 people voted yes but not one comment on why.
    I voted yes and gave my comments regarding why I voted that way.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I voted yes and gave my comments regarding why I voted that way.
    If they can opt out then it would not be mandatory.

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Any country that has to force the young - well, anyone - to pledge allegiance before they can even comprehend what the words mean is not a country I want to be a part of. Pledging allegiance, to anything, should always be a voluntary act. If it's not a voluntary act, then it's a superficial, meaningless waste of breath and to me, a complete dishonor of what this country stands for and all the people who have died defending it. I can't think of a bigger slap in the face to every person who has died for this country than to allow it to become an authoritarian regime that forces its youth to recite an allegiance like drones.
    Forcing anyone to say a pledge makes it meaningless.

    If you forced me to say a pledge to Russia, I might do it because you forced me to, but I certainly wouldn't mean it.

    (I find it interesting that people who advocate mandatory pledging don't realize that this seems exactly opposite to everything we supposedly stand for. I also find it interesting that this view is held by a lot of tea party activists who, at the exact same time, argue that we should be saving our guns, protesting the government, and actively rebelling against it.)

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    I was going to **** all over the premise, but rivrrat handled it so nicely.

    If you want to make it mandatory to be silent during the recitation of the pledge, that is acceptable. It is not acceptable to force minors to pledge anything to anyone, period.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I was going to **** all over the premise, but rivrrat handled it so nicely.

    If you want to make it mandatory to be silent during the recitation of the pledge, that is acceptable. It is not acceptable to force minors to pledge anything to anyone, period.
    And indeed, that has been the law of the land for over 40 years or so.

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Absolutely not. Forcing recitation of a pledge is a violation of everything this nation was founded upon. We are not a bunch of mindless drones who are forced to pretend we care about this country, either we do or we do not, it's our choice and enforcing a bunch of empty words that really don't prove a thing is a complete waste of time.

    It takes away from time we ought to be spending actually teaching our kids something useful. Like maybe the actual history of this nation.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Would you be okay with "under our Creator"?
    Absolutely not. We live in a secular nation, there is no place for any god-talk anywhere in officially sanctioned state or federal business. Save it for Sundays in church.
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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Should it be mandatory that all public schools recite the Pledge?
    No. I prefer to teach my kids active citizenship versus passively reciting a creed that most school children don't even understand.

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    Re: Should reciting the Pledge of Allegiance be mandatory in public schools?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Some public schools (like mine) still recite the pledge as a class in the mornings. Some do not.

    Should it be mandatory that all public schools recite the Pledge?
    Heck, No! I don't think reciting the Pledge makes anyone anymore patriotic.

    The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850-1898). The original "Pledge of Allegiance" was published in the September 8 issue of the popular children's magazine The Youth's Companion as part of the National Public-School Celebration of Columbus Day, a celebration of the 400th anniversary of Christopher Columbus's discovery of America. The event was conceived and promoted by James B. Upham, a marketer for the magazine, in a campaign to encourage patriotism and the display of the American flag in public schools.

    Pledge of Allegiance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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