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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    There is no such thing as "bias free."
    The Constitution was written with bias, towards a freedom based society.
    So in that regard, I am absolutely biased.
    But if I'm understanding you correctly, the reason that such an easily-understandable document is misunderstood by so many intelligent people is because they let their personal morality and personal politics cloud their judgment. But you (and anyone who agrees with you) can see past your personal views and interpret it correctly? I suppose it's just a coincidence that the correct interpretation of the Constitution so closely mirrors your own political views.
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I willing to wager that 99.999% of all judges understand exactly what it means but many of them would rather impart their personal beliefs over written law because there are no consequences when they do so.
    Yeah, all the judges who disagree with you are just dishonest...suuurrrrreeeeee...
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    But if I'm understanding you correctly, the reason that such an easily-understandable document is misunderstood by so many intelligent people is because they let their personal morality and personal politics cloud their judgment. But you (and anyone who agrees with you) can see past your personal views and interpret it correctly? I suppose it's just a coincidence that the correct interpretation of the Constitution so closely mirrors your own political views.
    If I derive my political views from the people who wrote The Constitution, how could it be anything but that?

    You act like it's a surprise that someone who studies the writers of the document, would interpret the document as the writers intended.

    Well no ****.
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yeah, all the judges who disagree with you are just dishonest...suuurrrrreeeeee...
    I didn't say that.
    Don't put words into my mouth.

    Even with the recent supreme court ruling on the 2nd amendment, they added their own qualifications, not supported by the original intent which is clearly in the wording of the document.
    It's not dishonest per se, it's adding their own personal morality, stereotypes, political beliefs, etc.
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I didn't say that.
    Don't put words into my mouth.

    Even with the recent supreme court ruling on the 2nd amendment, they added their own qualifications, not supported by the original intent which is clearly in the wording of the document.
    It's not dishonest per se, it's adding their own personal morality, stereotypes, political beliefs, etc.
    But you said that 99.9 % understood things as you think them, but a large number act otherwise. It's easier to believe that maybe your understanding is flawed, and not that it is every one else.
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    But you said that 99.9 % understood things as you think them, but a large number act otherwise. It's easier to believe that maybe your understanding is flawed, and not that it is every one else.
    Not likely because how can a judge derive things from something when there is no evidence to support whatever they find?
    Precedent can be used to do such a thing and all it takes is one judge to start the chain of screw ups.
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If I derive my political views from the people who wrote The Constitution, how could it be anything but that?

    You act like it's a surprise that someone who studies the writers of the document, would interpret the document as the writers intended.

    Well no ****.
    What do you think should be the basis of decisions on things that there might have not been any historical analogue to, such as electronic privacy rights?
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yes, they should confirm her. She is qualified for the position and that's the only thing they should be making their judgment upon.
    How is she qualified exactly? She has absolutely 0 judicial experience.
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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Yeah, it's sort of like my view on the 2008 election. It wasn't who I thought was best, it was who I thought wasn't worst and had a chance of winning.

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    Re: Should The Senate Confirm Elena Kagan

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    What do you think should be the basis of decisions on things that there might have not been any historical analogue to, such as electronic privacy rights?
    Privacy is privacy, electronic or otherwise.
    It is derived from the 4th amendment.
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