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  • Majority of population professes a particular religioun

    4 15.38%
  • Founding Father's religious beliefs

    2 7.69%
  • The country is special as ordained by God

    0 0%
  • The government backs a particular religion (but no church backed government)

    9 34.62%
  • A government established religion or denomination

    13 50.00%
  • All laws are primarily derived from a religious tradition

    10 38.46%
  • The government is a theocracy

    13 50.00%
  • The majority of government officials are of a particular religion

    0 0%
  • Members of a particular religion enjoy a special status

    8 30.77%
  • Other

    5 19.23%
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Thread: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

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    What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    Looking through this thread(http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...an-nation.html), I notice people using different criteria, so I wanted to ask this question.

    Options (and explanation):
    # Majority of population professes a particular religion (self explanatory)
    # Founding Father's religious beliefs (such as the FFs for the US or abraham for Israel)
    # The country is special as ordained by God (Israel is an example)
    # The government backs a particular religion (but no church backed government)
    # A government established religion or denomination (anglican church)
    # All laws are primarily derived from a religious tradition (middle eastern countries who derive laws from sharia)
    # The government is a theocracy (iran, tibet of olden days)
    # The majority of government officials are of a particular religion (self explanatory)
    # Members of a particular religion enjoy a special status (in certain muslim countries, you are treated like crap if you aren't muslim)
    # Other (something I didn't think of)
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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Looking through this thread(http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...an-nation.html), I notice people using different criteria, so I wanted to ask this question.
    Options (and explanation):
    I voted:
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # Majority of population professes a particular religion (self explanatory)
    No - Because this does not make the country a particular religion, it simply means that the majority of the population professes a particular religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # Founding Father's religious beliefs (such as the FFs for the US or Abraham for Israel)
    No – Because although our founders may have been majority Christian, judging from a few things in the constitution, they didn’t want Christianity controlling the country.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # The country is special as ordained by God (Israel is an example)
    No – Because that is so only if you believe in the religion that claims such.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # The government backs a particular religion (but no church backed government)
    No – Because without the religion backing the gov in turn, I would just consider it an attempt at controlling the population/pandering to voters.
    Then again, perhaps I was wrong, and this could be one way the US became a “Christian nation”.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # A government established religion or denomination (Anglican church)
    Yes – Because (in combination with my other “yes” votes), I figured that would be 99% equal to a Theocracy.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # All laws are primarily derived from a religious tradition (middle eastern countries who derive laws from sharia)
    Yes – In combination with my other yes votes.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # The government is a theocracy (Iran, Tibet of olden days)
    Obviously, yes. Depending on your definition of “Christian”, in this case, but…
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # The majority of government officials are of a particular religion (self explanatory)
    No – That would only create a situation where the possibility existed that a large portion of laws and regulations would be based on values and tenets from the religion in question.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # Members of a particular religion enjoy a special status (in certain Muslim countries, you are treated like crap if you aren't Muslim)
    Yes – In combination with my other “yes” votes.
    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    # Other (something I didn't think of)
    No - Because I didn't think of another possiblity either.
    Last edited by The Mark; 07-01-10 at 05:09 PM.
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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    I would not consider a nation to belong to a specific religion unless it had an official State religion and that State religion were actively involved in governing the citizens.

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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    I went with

    1) The government backs a particular religion (but no church backed government)

    2) A government established religion or denomination

    3) All laws are primarily derived from a religious tradition

    4) The government is a theocracy

    5) Members of a particular religion enjoy a special status

    Though I did take 1 to be functionally equivalent to 5
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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    How do you define "Christian nation"?
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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    Under the law religions being treated unequally other than Christianity would define a Christian nation to me.

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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How do you define "Christian nation"?
    The answers I chose, and the comments I made about them, should give you an idea.

    IMO, quite a few changes would be necessary for the US to become a "Christian nation", in one sense.

    In another sense (that of majority population being Christian), we are already.

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    Personally, I only define a nation as “Christian” (or any other religion) if it is a Theocracy. As in, the religion’s teachings and rules trump all others, and the religious leaders are the political leaders as well. Among other things…

    Now, I consider the USA to be strongly influenced by Christian (and to a lesser extent, other religions) values and teachings. It could hardly be otherwise, what with the majority of the population, and thus the majority of the voters, being Christian (or other religions).

    The smaller portion who are non-religious, agnostic (don’t know or don’t care), or anti-religious, also have influence. Equally obvious is that this influence is less than that of religious influence.

    Some would argue that this makes us nearly equal to a theocracy. I personally think that’s BS.

    A theocracy would have banned or restricted other religions (or non-religion, etc.) long since.

    Further, the constitution of our nation explicitly prevents such laws, and that in my mind completely prevents us from becoming a theocracy – at least without violating the constitution.
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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    I believe our legal tradition descends from our Judeo-Christian tradition. It's allowed our nation to evolve into a more compassionate one, self-examinatory one. I'm thankful to not live in a theocracy.

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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    If you want a Christian nation then you need a theocracy.
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    Re: What is the necessary criteria for the US to be a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How do you define "Christian nation"?
    I planned to leave that up to the voters as it has a lot to do with their votes

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