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Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally?

  • Yes! I'll be there protesting!

    Votes: 1 4.8%
  • No! I'll be an audience member of the rally.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No. I wish I could go!

    Votes: 12 57.1%
  • Yes! I can't go, but I'll speak out online or other ways.

    Votes: 8 38.1%

  • Total voters
    21
So since your are a big fan of Glenn Beck, you must believe this as well. What's the evidence that Obama is a Communist? Van Jones? Do you believe that crap? Anita Dunn?

I think the most telling association is Frank Marshall Davis. Known simply as Frank in Obama's book. He was his mentor in his formative yrs. starting at age 10.
Also what's not to believe about Van Jones. He admits to being a self avowed Communist. Are you calling Van Jones a liar?
 
I think the most telling association is Frank Marshall Davis. Known simply as Frank in Obama's book. He was his mentor in his formative yrs. starting at age 10.
Also what's not to believe about Van Jones. He admits to being a self avowed Communist. Are you calling Van Jones a liar?

Guilt by association eh? Ignoring the facts that Obama has acted strongly as a typical politician and has supported the status quo and the aristocracy.
 
Either online or in person, will you be speaking out against this rally. Please explain why or why not. (Obviously if you don't care either way you won't vote.)

Restoring Honor - 8.28.10

I went to that site and saw that they had a pic of Ben Franklin with the word "Charity" underneath. I can't help but ask why they are going to idolize a Founding Father known to have acquired the services of many a French prostitute at a political rally about restoring honor in Washington, D.C.
 
I went to that site and saw that they had a pic of Ben Franklin with the word "Charity" underneath. I can't help but ask why they are going to idolize a Founding Father known to have acquired the services of many a French prostitute at a political rally about restoring honor in Washington, D.C.

Probably because he was so much more than just the shallow stories you heard in high school and college.
 
One has to wonder what Beck and Palin will charge for apperance fees.

It's Beck's rally. I doubt that he will take any money. He's GIVING a ton of money and time to the project. Palin...who knows. It doesn't really bother me either way.
 
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what I did. Yet I am not limited from commenting on what I think would have made a more complete poll. Don't like it, ignore it. Or you can make better poll options in the future. Simple.

Oy. I still don't understand why people think they HAVE to be part of every single poll. Sometimes it's not all about you.... Just sayin'.
 
You know something that bothers me? We are willing to watch, listen to those we vehemently disagree with while most liberals hate people like Rush, Glenn etc. just because and won't take the time to listen.
You know what bothers me? When people make blanket generalizations in threads where they've already been shot down for stupid comments (like hannity being attacked by liberals when it was a conservative that did so).

I'd be willing to bet that many people on both sides of the isle watch stuff they disagree with, I know I do. Throwing around gross generalizations about how close minded most liberals are makes one wonder why you'd be throwing those stones in that glass house in the first place...

BTW, Mellie, if honesty had anything to do with ratings, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Olbermann and many other media partisan talking heads wouldn't have tv or radio shows because they're all self gratifying info-tainers..
 
Oy. I still don't understand why people think they HAVE to be part of every single poll. Sometimes it's not all about you.... Just sayin'.

I didn't say I had to be part of the poll, nor did I participate in it. I was just saying that your poll wasn't well constructed. Just sayin'.
 
BTW, Mellie, if honesty had anything to do with ratings, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Olbermann and many other media partisan talking heads wouldn't have tv or radio shows because they're all self gratifying info-tainers..

Honesty does have something to do with ratings. People like hearing those who aren't afraid to speak their minds honestly. They like to hear passionate voices -- people who actually care about what they're doing and saying.

When they find out that someone has been dishonest or dishonorable, many stop watching. Of course, Olbermann's ratings are mainly because he's on the far-left fringe and that population isn't very large in this country.
 
Probably because he was so much more than just the shallow stories you heard in high school and college.

You mean like discovering electricity, being a Postmaster General, and making a fortune with his printing presses? Those shallow stories?

I'm not knocking on the guy - Ben Franklin is one of my favorite Founding Fathers. I'm just saying that it seems hypocritical of the people at the rally to use him an example of honor when I seriously doubt that their sense of honor includes promiscuity and prostitution, both of which Ben Franklin participated in with great gusto.
 
Honesty does have something to do with ratings. People like hearing those who aren't afraid to speak their minds honestly. They like to hear passionate voices -- people who actually care about what they're doing and saying.

When they find out that someone has been dishonest or dishonorable, many stop watching. Of course, Olbermann's ratings are mainly because he's on the far-left fringe and that population isn't very large in this country.

That would be fine if honesty were part of the equation. But it's not. It's emotionalized propaganda and nothing more. Each side will change their arguments depending who is in office. For example, during most of the Bush presidency, many of the right-wing political entertainers blamed Clinton (and not entirely uncalled for) for many of the problems faced by Bush. But now that people are giving it back, claiming that many of the problems Obama has were inherited by Bush, it becomes a "Oh they're just trying to blame Bush" thing.

There's no honesty. Rarely is nonpartisan data ever presented. It's emotionalized tripe and hyper-partisan propaganda. These people are entertainers after all, and honesty often has little to do with entertainment.
 
There's no honesty. Rarely is nonpartisan data ever presented. It's emotionalized tripe and hyper-partisan propaganda. These people are entertainers after all, and honesty often has little to do with entertainment.

You're absolutely right about that. These pundits that affect political opinion so much aren't paid to be honest - they are paid to sell commercials, and they'll say anything they can to do so.
 
I went to that site and saw that they had a pic of Ben Franklin with the word "Charity" underneath. I can't help but ask why they are going to idolize a Founding Father known to have acquired the services of many a French prostitute at a political rally about restoring honor in Washington, D.C.

When you think about it, isn't prostitution just another form of charity?
 
You're absolutely right about that. These pundits that affect political opinion so much aren't paid to be honest - they are paid to sell commercials, and they'll say anything they can to do so.

Exactly. They need ratings, the way they get ratings on both sides is through sensationalism. People should really understand this point. Apparently, we have no stomach for dry, informative debate and dialog so we mask all our "news" in the form of entertainment. But then we don't do the necessary research to disentangle hyperbole and sensationalism from fact and reality.
 
There's no honesty. Rarely is nonpartisan data ever presented. It's emotionalized tripe and hyper-partisan propaganda. These people are entertainers after all, and honesty often has little to do with entertainment.

I'd rather play a drinking game watching the Bob Newheart show.:mrgreen:

Hi Bob:lamo
 
At least play a drinking game watching the original Star Wars. Drink whenever Luke whines, drink whenever anyone says "it's not my fault", drink whenever someone references the force, etc.

Found the rules

Drink when:

* Someone has a bad feeling about this.
* It's their only hope.
* An entire planet is described as having one climate.
* Somebody gets choked.
* A woman other than Leia is on screen
* An old Jedi starts to ramble about the Force. (Vader counts.)
* Somebody's hand gets cut off.
* A gigantic technological marvel explodes in a single blast.
* There is a tremor in the Force.
* It's not someone's fault
* One or more heroes are almost eaten by a Thing
* A Jedi is much more powerful than he looks
* Someone exclaims "No!"
* Someone does something apparently suicidal that turns out to be a good idea
* Twice if it's not Han
* Someone wears the same outfit in all three movies--it counts if they change at the end
* Someone is mind-controled using the Force
* People kiss
* A good guy wears white or a bad guy wears black
* Twice if a bad guy wears white and a good guy wears black (for uniforms, only the first person on screen counts)
* Three times if someone hovering in between wears gray
* Every time you find yourself talking to the people on screen
* An elaborately made up alien has no lines
* Someone or something tries to get money from Han
* Some ship crashes into something after being hit.
* Someone has a light saber duel (includes just using light saber)
* An Ewok dies, and the camera lingers longer than it did when the Death Star exploded, killing billions of people. (Fourteen seconds. Count'em.)
* It is Luke's destiny.
* Luke whines.
* Luke discovers a long-lost relative.
* Luke fights monsters or savages.
* Luke does some nifty acrobatic flip.
* Luke teeters on the brink of a chasm.
* Luke is upside-down
* Luke and Lando are in the same place at the same time
* Twice if they speak to each other
* Luke's parentage is Foreshadowed
* Luke refuses to take someone's advice
* Luke yells "Artooooo!"
* Leia insults somebody.
* Leia wears an outfit that covers everything except her face and hands
* Twice if it covers her neck
* Three times if she's almost totally nude
* Obi-Wan Kenobi materializes for a guest appearance.
* Obi-Wan Kenobi plays detective. ("...Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise.")
* Han brags about the Millenium Falcon.
* Anybody insults the Millenium Falcon.
* Something doesn't work on the Falcon
* Twice if it's the hyperdrive
* Yoda uses bad grammar.
* Yoda talks like a fortune cookie.
* R2-D2 gets thrashed.
* R2-D2 plugs into the wrong socket and his head spins around.
* C-3PO loses a body part. (Take two drinks if he is completely dismembered.)
* C-3PO informs us of just how many forms of communication he's familiar with
* A Rebel pilot is of a race other than white
* Twice if they're non human (co-pilots count)
* A Rebel Pilot says "Nice Shot..."
* A Rebel Pilot says "I've been hit..."
* Tarkin brags about the Death Star.
 
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Honesty does have something to do with ratings. People like hearing those who aren't afraid to speak their minds honestly. They like to hear passionate voices -- people who actually care about what they're doing and saying.

When they find out that someone has been dishonest or dishonorable, many stop watching. Of course, Olbermann's ratings are mainly because he's on the far-left fringe and that population isn't very large in this country.
Would you consider CNN more biased and dishonest than MSNBC? I sure wouldn't, but their ratings are lower than MSNBC's in (I believe) every single time slot.

Also, are you saying that Rush Limbaugh is the most honest and honorable person on radio?

Also, if we're going off of your standards, since the network news programs beat fox, they are much more honest and reliable. I'd be interested if you'd agree with my assessment or if now, all of a sudden, other factors will get involved with this? It's good to meet a libertarian like yourself that doesn't believe in this left wing media stuff, because as you point out, if the networks were dishonest or dishonorable, people wouldn't be watching them, right?
 
Honesty does have something to do with ratings. People like hearing those who aren't afraid to speak their minds honestly. They like to hear passionate voices -- people who actually care about what they're doing and saying.

I'd say that Glenn Beck is about as passionate and honest about the products he shills to his fans as Billy Mays was about orange glow and shamwow.
 
At least play a drinking game watching the original Star Wars. Drink whenever Luke whines, drink whenever anyone says "it's not my fault", drink whenever someone references the force, etc.

Found the rules

Drink when:

* Someone has a bad feeling about this.
* It's their only hope.
* An entire planet is described as having one climate.
* Somebody gets choked.
* A woman other than Leia is on screen
* An old Jedi starts to ramble about the Force. (Vader counts.)
* Somebody's hand gets cut off.
* A gigantic technological marvel explodes in a single blast.
* There is a tremor in the Force.
* It's not someone's fault
* One or more heroes are almost eaten by a Thing
* A Jedi is much more powerful than he looks
* Someone exclaims "No!"
* Someone does something apparently suicidal that turns out to be a good idea
* Twice if it's not Han
* Someone wears the same outfit in all three movies--it counts if they change at the end
* Someone is mind-controled using the Force
* People kiss
* A good guy wears white or a bad guy wears black
* Twice if a bad guy wears white and a good guy wears black (for uniforms, only the first person on screen counts)
* Three times if someone hovering in between wears gray
* Every time you find yourself talking to the people on screen
* An elaborately made up alien has no lines
* Someone or something tries to get money from Han
* Some ship crashes into something after being hit.
* Someone has a light saber duel (includes just using light saber)
* An Ewok dies, and the camera lingers longer than it did when the Death Star exploded, killing billions of people. (Fourteen seconds. Count'em.)
* It is Luke's destiny.
* Luke whines.
* Luke discovers a long-lost relative.
* Luke fights monsters or savages.
* Luke does some nifty acrobatic flip.
* Luke teeters on the brink of a chasm.
* Luke is upside-down
* Luke and Lando are in the same place at the same time
* Twice if they speak to each other
* Luke's parentage is Foreshadowed
* Luke refuses to take someone's advice
* Luke yells "Artooooo!"
* Leia insults somebody.
* Leia wears an outfit that covers everything except her face and hands
* Twice if it covers her neck
* Three times if she's almost totally nude
* Obi-Wan Kenobi materializes for a guest appearance.
* Obi-Wan Kenobi plays detective. ("...Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise.")
* Han brags about the Millenium Falcon.
* Anybody insults the Millenium Falcon.
* Something doesn't work on the Falcon
* Twice if it's the hyperdrive
* Yoda uses bad grammar.
* Yoda talks like a fortune cookie.
* R2-D2 gets thrashed.
* R2-D2 plugs into the wrong socket and his head spins around.
* C-3PO loses a body part. (Take two drinks if he is completely dismembered.)
* C-3PO informs us of just how many forms of communication he's familiar with
* A Rebel pilot is of a race other than white
* Twice if they're non human (co-pilots count)
* A Rebel Pilot says "Nice Shot..."
* A Rebel Pilot says "I've been hit..."
* Tarkin brags about the Death Star.

Damn I love Sci Fi and all but heck the nerds come up with so many rules it ruins the whole thing.:mrgreen:
 
I'd say that Glenn Beck is about as passionate and honest about the products he shills to his fans as Billy Mays was about orange glow and shamwow.

Billy Mays didn't pitch ShamWow, and btw, oxyclean is ****ing amazing you blasphemer!

RIP Billy Mays.
 
Exactly. They need ratings, the way they get ratings on both sides is through sensationalism. People should really understand this point. Apparently, we have no stomach for dry, informative debate and dialog so we mask all our "news" in the form of entertainment. But then we don't do the necessary research to disentangle hyperbole and sensationalism from fact and reality.

There was something I heard James Carville say about the news media nowadays. "People nowadays use the news channels the way a drunk uses a lamppost - for support instead of illumination." He went on to explain how people today don't listen to pundits to get information - rather, they listen to pundits to get validation of their own political beliefs. And pundits do that validation so they can gain an audience that they can then sell commercials to.
 
Restoring honor to our country. Getting back to the basics of what a GOOD country is. Stop the corruption, stop the political games, stop treating citizens like they're morons who deserve to be mocked (*cough* Rep. Stark *cough*), honor our children by not leaving them with trillions of dollars in debt....

What is wrong with that?

Nothing. However, when someone like Glenn Beck is spearheading it, I begin to question the agenda behind it. Glenn Beck is a joke.
 
Nothing. However, when someone like Glenn Beck is spearheading it, I begin to question the agenda behind it. Glenn Beck is a joke.

Not only that, but if this is really a non-political rally like the website touts it as, did they invite any liberal speakers there?
 
Not only that, but if this is really a non-political rally like the website touts it as, did they invite any liberal speakers there?

I just find it hilarious that Glenn Beck of all people is fronting a protest for Restoring Honor. He's a former zoo crew radio guy who is now makes an absolute spectacle of himself on his show nightly for ratings. Bozo the Clown may as well be fronting this thing.
 
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