View Poll Results: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally?

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  • Yes! I'll be there protesting!

    10 9.09%
  • No! I'll be an audience member of the rally.

    56 50.91%
  • No. I wish I could go!

    28 25.45%
  • Yes! I can't go, but I'll speak out online or other ways.

    16 14.55%
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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I think the most telling association is Frank Marshall Davis. Known simply as Frank in Obama's book. He was his mentor in his formative yrs. starting at age 10.
    Also what's not to believe about Van Jones. He admits to being a self avowed Communist. Are you calling Van Jones a liar?
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    In his memoir Dreams from My Father, Barack Obama wrote about "Frank", a friend of his grandfather's. "Frank" told Obama that he and Stanley (Obama's maternal grandfather) both had grown up only 50 miles apart, near Wichita, although they did not meet until Hawaii. He described the way race relations were back then, including Jim Crow, and his view that there had been little progress since then. As Obama remembered, "It made me smile, thinking back on Frank and his old Black Power, dashiki self. In some ways he was as incurable as my mother, as certain in his faith, living in the same sixties time warp that Hawaii had created."[19] Obama also remembered Frank later in life when he took a job in South Chicago as a community organizer and took some time one day to visit the areas where Frank had lived and wrote in his book, "I imagined Frank in a baggy suit and wide lapels, standing in front of the old Regal Theatre, waiting to see Duke or Ella emerge from a gig." [20]

    Gerald Horne, a contributing editor to the CPUSA official publication Political Affairs, identified "Frank" as Davis, and "a decisive influence in helping Obama to find his present identity" as an African-American.[21] Claims that Davis was a political influence on Obama were reiterated in the hotly-disputed anti-Obama book The Obama Nation.[22] A rebuttal released by Obama's presidential campaign, titled Unfit for Publication, confirmed that "Frank" was, in fact, Frank Marshall Davis, but disputes certain claims about the nature of their relationship.[23]
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    Yes, Jones admitted when he was young, he was a communist. However, that doesn't really mean he was. Even if he was a communist, that doesn't mean he still is. uber conservative David Horowitz was once a Marxist and both of his parents were Communists.

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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Damn I love Sci Fi and all but heck the nerds come up with so many rules it ruins the whole thing.
    Not to mention you would be dead after like two movies.


    On topic as others have said don't care, isn't going, and will probably have something better to do than even pay attention unless I see another thread here.

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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    There was something I heard James Carville say about the news media nowadays. "People nowadays use the news channels the way a drunk uses a lamppost - for support instead of illumination." He went on to explain how people today don't listen to pundits to get information - rather, they listen to pundits to get validation of their own political beliefs. And pundits do that validation so they can gain an audience that they can then sell commercials to.
    I think this is, sadly, exactly what goes on these days. People are looking for nothing more than confirmation of their ideals without having to think about the ramifications or the realities of what they call for. So they turn to emotional outburst and hyperbole in order to confirm their own beliefs. I watch FOX news a bit, I try to catch Hannity. But it's hard to watch. Not only is it mostly intellectually dishonest and propaganda, but people eat up these words without much thought at all. I can't help but think that on some level we're regressing back to monkeys.
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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think this is, sadly, exactly what goes on these days. People are looking for nothing more than confirmation of their ideals without having to think about the ramifications or the realities of what they call for. So they turn to emotional outburst and hyperbole in order to confirm their own beliefs. I watch FOX news a bit, I try to catch Hannity. But it's hard to watch. Not only is it mostly intellectually dishonest and propaganda, but people eat up these words without much thought at all. I can't help but think that on some level we're regressing back to monkeys.
    I agree and it what angers me about pundits. Their viewers believe that their pundit is right and the other sides pundits is wrong. I got into a political argument with my grandmother and aunt and all they could say was well Beck said this or Hannity said that.

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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    I don't refer to them as pundits anymore. I call them political entertainers.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    But it hurts my brain when I have to think!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think this is, sadly, exactly what goes on these days. People are looking for nothing more than confirmation of their ideals without having to think about the ramifications or the realities of what they call for. So they turn to emotional outburst and hyperbole in order to confirm their own beliefs. I watch FOX news a bit, I try to catch Hannity. But it's hard to watch. Not only is it mostly intellectually dishonest and propaganda, but people eat up these words without much thought at all. I can't help but think that on some level we're regressing back to monkeys.
    Well, to be fair, Carville then went on to say that that was the same kind of climate for news media back in the Colonial days that caused the Colonies to rebel against the British. Only instead of the internet and 24-hour cable news channels, we had printing pressing pumping out pamphlets as fast as they could be written.

    But I don't put the blame on the news media that pumps out whatever will sell commercials - I blame the people who only seek validation rather than information in their news.

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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Well, to be fair, Carville then went on to say that that was the same kind of climate for news media back in the Colonial days that caused the Colonies to rebel against the British. Only instead of the internet and 24-hour cable news channels, we had printing pressing pumping out pamphlets as fast as they could be written.

    But I don't put the blame on the news media that pumps out whatever will sell commercials - I blame the people who only seek validation rather than information in their news.
    The same thing happened wit yellow journalism as well. And Hurst did have political goals kinda like Murdoch does.

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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    I won't be there. It has nothing to do with the cause or anything, I just don't go to political rallies.
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    Re: Will you be protesting the Restoring Honor Rally in D.C. on 8/28?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Whose protesting the military now? You were making the statement it seemed that protests/rallies concerning the military (Such as anti-war protests, pro-war rallies, etc) are suggesting those people do'nt think "our troops deserve our undivided attention while at war?"
    I have no idea who is protesting the military. I didn't say anyone was.

    I think you are reading too much into that comment I made. Let's say I hold a rally that I say isn't political and the proceeds go to a charity. It's not right to say that people who disagree with the premise of my rally also disagree with my charity. Basically my statement was a challenge to that line of thinking. If this is about the military, then make it about the military. But alas, they aren't holding a rally to restore honor to the military.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Which is funny, because you're suggesting that doing a protest that...perhaps even partisan in nature...is supposed to be in part about supporting the troops and is donating money to troops is enough to chastise someone about apparently not giving our troops our undivided attention while at war, and yet I never once can remember you chastising anti-war protestors in a similar way for their actions regarding the military.
    Code Pink are a bunch of retards. Remember I said this.

    Anti/pro war rallies/protests actually involve the military. The topic of this rally does not. Just because a rally may donate to a noble cause does not insulate it from criticism. Let's say a NORML rally decided to donate proceeds (let's pretend they would exist ) to a military charity. It would be perfectly legitimate to criticize the cause of their rally and still support the charity.
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