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Thread: Is it Constitutional?

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    Re: Is it Constitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    What's the difference?
    There's a huge difference. Laws can be stupid and still constitutional and laws can be sensible (in a subjective sense) and still be unconstitutional. If a township passed a law setting the speed limit on their roads at 5 MPH, that would be constitutional, but it would also be incredibly stupid. SCOTUS has no business striking down a law simply because its poor policy. It's the job of elected officials to make policy and for the people to hold them accountable for the policies they enact. The court's job is merely to examine if laws are allowable according to the Constitution.
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    Re: Is it Constitutional?

    The government can "control what we eat" in a sense by limiting what businesses can offer us. For instance limiting salt, sugar, fat, and other harmful things that can be found in the foods we can buy.

    However the government would never be able to tell people "you need to eat 3 fruits and 3 vegetables a day". There would be no way to enforce that and it would be impossible to pass. I'm not sure if it would even be constitutional... though I assume it wouldn't be.

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    Re: Is it Constitutional?

    The US Constitution grants the national government very limited powers and this is not one of them.
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    Re: Is it Constitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
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    P.S. I know it's a hypothetical question and I know Kagan said she doesn't think the court should strike down laws because they're senseless (). That's not the question.
    Is it Constitutional?

    Why are so many people, including Supreme Court Justices, SO STUPID?

    It's so simple. Just ask two questions:

    1. Is it specifically permitted in the Constitution? If it is omitted, it is NOT Constitutional.

    2. Does it violate people's individual rights? If it does, it is NOT Constitutional.


    About 90% of what the government does is unconstitutional. Ditto for state and local governments.

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    Re: Is it Constitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    Is it Constitutional?

    Why are so many people, including Supreme Court Justices, SO STUPID?

    It's so simple. Just ask two questions:

    1. Is it specifically permitted in the Constitution? If it is omitted, it is NOT Constitutional.

    2. Does it violate people's individual rights? If it does, it is NOT Constitutional.


    About 90% of what the government does is unconstitutional. Ditto for state and local governments.
    Amazing. I never knew that you were smarter than every single lawyer and judge that has ever existed. Who knew? Guess we should just replace the Supreme Court with you, since you apparently are the world's leading legal expert.

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    Re: Is it Constitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    Amazing. I never knew that you were smarter than every single lawyer and judge that has ever existed. Who knew? Guess we should just replace the Supreme Court with you, since you apparently are the world's leading legal expert.
    Apparently he is smarter. He happens to be right, though our reality we've built would never support such blatant honesty.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Is it Constitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
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    2. Take the poll.


    P.S. I know it's a hypothetical question and I know Kagan said she doesn't think the court should strike down laws because they're senseless (). That's not the question.
    I know this isn't the only "is it constitutional" thing out there from her questioning in the Senate.

    But the point of the court meeting and taking on cases is to determine if things *are* Constitutional or not . . . there is a very indepth and lengthy process behind that. It's NEVER A quick "yes, no" - when it comes to a law that's BEEN passed by Congress. . . it's always more complicated.

    Judges MUST review, heavily, everything - an weigh out the implications of the law, the meanings their selected words have and so on - judgements and decisions are never quick-draw.

    I think such questions to her (and anyone else) are mere "gotcha" - and I don't like them, really.
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