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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Theocracy speaks of a form of established government over a defined territory, IE a state, not a nation.
    So your basically arguing semantics. The majority of the pop. is Christian, but the state is secular. You could say it is a Christian nation, but too many people would confuse that with a theocracy.

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    I mean, I disagree with it, but the vast majority of Americans are Christian(78%). Both links I give though show data showing that America is very heavily Christian. If we are more than 3/4 Christian it is hard not to say we are a Christian nation. Do I believe it should affect our decisions? No. Do I believe it does affect our decisions? Absolutely

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    So your basically arguing semantics. The majority of the pop. is Christian, but the state is secular. You could say it is a Christian nation, but too many people would confuse that with a theocracy.
    Perhaps. I'm being annoyed with another thread where people are arguing a technical term by making an argument using common vernacular, and attempting in some cases to tell people using the word in its more technically correct manner that they're wrong.

    Its kind of like me arguing that a new laptop is not hot but rather runs extremely cool to the touch thanks to a new liquid cooling technology and having someone go "Nah man, that laptop is HOT! Its got all the best features and is absolutely amazing. Its hot as hell man!"

    Essentially, countering a more correct use of the word in an argument by arguing against the slang use of it.

    A nation is not a government per se, its a grouping of individuals sharing some sort of common bond...in regards to America my argument is the common bond is its generalized territory and religion. A state is a body of government with authority to rule. The one tricky in between would be a political nation, and even then its not the government itself but the grouping of people declaring their ability to govern themselves due to a common bond.

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    A nation is not a government per se, its a grouping of individuals sharing some sort of common bond...in regards to America my argument is the common bond is its generalized territory and religion.
    If "Christianity" were a single religion, then that could be the case, but Christianity is actually a whole bunch of religions, each with a different culture of it's own. For example, Catholics (the largest specific religious affiliation in the country) have a different culture from Southern Baptist culture or Mormon culture, but all three are considered "Christian cultures".
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    All of which share a common base and are close enough in their general belief sturcture to be classified by the vast majority of people as a singular religion with different sects rather than each sect being a different religion.

    Catholics and Baptists are two sects or denominations of the same religion, not two seperate and individual religions.

    The one argument I would possibly relent on would be in regards to Mormons, as they've diverged to a point where it could be argued that a majority of Christians believe them to be an entirely seperate religion. Something I do not think you could say of Baptists views of Catholics or Catholics views of Protestants.

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    We are a nation of Christians whose personal religious beliefs influence our political decisions but we aren't a nation based on Christian law.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    All of which share a common base and are close enough in their general belief sturcture to be classified by the vast majority of people as a singular religion with different sects rather than each sect being a different religion.

    Catholics and Baptists are two sects or denominations of the same religion, not two seperate and individual religions.

    The one argument I would possibly relent on would be in regards to Mormons, as they've diverged to a point where it could be argued that a majority of Christians believe them to be an entirely seperate religion. Something I do not think you could say of Baptists views of Catholics or Catholics views of Protestants.
    I absolutely disagree. Just ask some people here who are Baptists/evangelical sorts if they think Catholicism is Christianity.

    I've heard many of them say that it isn't.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Well it has a christian heritage but it's clearly a multicultural society with a predominant christian majority on the religious front.

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    I said yes and no. Since we are a representative republic, our representatives vote based more their on belief system or that of their supporters, rather than what should and shouldn't be in the government's interests. Since about 3/4 of the population are Christians, then that will influence, to a point, their beliefs on what is right and wrong, and how far the government should go to regulate that. It is more seen in state laws than federal. The good thing is we have the Constitution and BoR to limit how much those beliefs can influence laws federally, and somewhat on the state level. Which I think is what sets us apart from theocracies, whereas in a theocracy, the views of the majority of the people would have to change, here, we just have to show how the laws are unconstitutional, although this can be harder than it sounds.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I absolutely disagree. Just ask some people here who are Baptists/evangelical sorts if they think Catholicism is Christianity.

    I've heard many of them say that it isn't.
    Catholicism is paganism lite, and mormonism is a deluded cult. Don't even get me started on the Jehovah's Witlesses.

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