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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh let me turn that on you and ask if you think the 76% of the US population who are Christian enjoy being told they're in a secular nation
    Tell you the truth, I'd bet that a great many of that 76% actually do qualify as secular, regardless of the definition used.

    But either way, I have to agree that US should not be described as a secular nation, either, since it doesn't accurately describe the population.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Fixed it for you.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Thangs.
    It's not very often I get to be a grammar Nazi, especialy since Firefox's spell checker doesn't work in DP's new quick reply feature, but I really should leave it to the professionals like 10.

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Do you understand the meaning of the term pagan? I'm guessing no.

    Online Etymology Dictionary

    In its simplest sense, pagan means only "not Christian."
    Being greedy or driven be consumerism does not make one "not Christian"

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ...especialy since Firefox's spell checker doesn't work in DP's new quick reply feature....
    My typos have increased at least 10-fold due to that.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    See that's my point. Regardless of what I add to it, it's still a cup of coffee.
    To you.

    To someone else, it would be a cup of coffee, with "a lot of cream and a truck load of sugar, along with an ice cube to cool it down."

    Without those descriptors, someone could make the mistake of thinking it a cup of coffee with small to medium amounts of cream and sugar...Then upon taking a sip...

    The point I’m trying to make is that using such a general description method is fine when dealing with coffee (at least, if referring to your own cup), but when describing a nation, more accuracy is necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh let me turn that on you and ask if you think the 76% of the US population who are Christian enjoy being told they're in a secular nation
    They are.

    But at the same time, as Tucker has pointed out, they are also a Christian nation.

    Would you not agree that most Christians consider themselves separate from non-Christians? For that matter, some Christian sub-sects consider themselves separate from other Christians, not to mention all other religions.

    So they are members of the nation known as the USA, and then also members of the nation of Christianity specifically within the USA, and then also members of the nation of (specific sect of Christianity) specifically within the nation of Christianity specifically within the USA……….

    You get the idea.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Their free to move to any of those Atheist nations if they choose.
    Did I specify atheists?

    I have a friend who is a “Pagan” (specifically, the old Norse gods and such), and nearly a full-blown socialist. He’s also enough of an anti-Christian (due in part to negative experiences with “Christians”) that I’m positive lumping him into a “Christian nation” would piss him off.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    My typos have increased at least 10-fold due to that.
    When I'm at work, I don't have access to firefox.

    IE, sadly enough.

    And thus, I use MS word to spell-check, which adds time to posting.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    See that's my point. Regardless of what I add to it, it's still a cup of coffee.
    It depends on what you added, actually. Coffee is by it's very nature a mixture. There are still certain requiremnts, though. One of them must be that it is a drink that one can consume relatively safely (i.e. without causing immediate death).

    If what you added to the "coffee" was cyanide, calling it coffee would be innacurate because it will no longer have that quality.
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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Being greedy or driven be consumerism does not make one "not Christian"
    You skipped over the red words in your new testament, didn't you?

    Matthew 19:24 "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

    Mark 10:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
    Luke 18:25 "For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
    You know, there are very few parables that are consistently repeated through all of the gospels, but somehow, that one was.

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    Re: Is America a Christian Nation?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To you.
    If it's not a cup of coffee, what is it? A white Russian? Kinda early in the day for that isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To someone else, it would be a cup of coffee, with "a lot of cream and a truck load of sugar, along with an ice cube to cool it down."
    That's what it is to me, too.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Without those descriptors, someone could make the mistake of thinking it a cup of coffee with small to medium amounts of cream and sugar...Then upon taking a sip...
    I can make the same analogy with pizza if you'd like...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    The point I’m trying to make is that using such a general description method is fine when dealing with coffee (at least, if referring to your own cup), but when describing a nation, more accuracy is necessary.
    Not unless we're all political science majors, no, we don't. We're just average people living on the sound bite.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But at the same time, as Tucker has pointed out, they are also a Christian nation.
    You might be able to say that about the Vatican, but Christians per-se, not so much.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Would you not agree that most Christians consider themselves separate from non-Christians? For that matter, some Christian sub-sects consider themselves separate from other Christians, not to mention all other religions.
    I wouldn't say that, no. Christians are not by and large isolationists.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    So they are members of the nation known as the USA, and then also members of the nation of Christianity specifically within the USA, and then also members of the nation of (specific sect of Christianity) specifically within the nation of Christianity specifically within the USA……….
    See when you say something like that, I compare it to the Lakota Nation here in SD. The Lakota Nation actually is a sub-nation to the US, complete with official Federal standing, a government with authority, well defined physical boundaries on property, shared religion, a heritage and language. They even issue tribal ID cards stating that a person is a member of the Lakota Nation.

    Christians have no such thing within the US.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Did I specify atheists?
    Did I say you did? No. What a guy isn't allowed to introduce anything new?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I have a friend who is a “Pagan” (specifically, the old Norse gods and such), and nearly a full-blown socialist. He’s also enough of an anti-Christian (due in part to negative experiences with “Christians”) that I’m positive lumping him into a “Christian nation” would piss him off.
    Sounds like he needs Christ in his life.
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