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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Those who follow the sport certainly know who he is.

    He's only a three time U.S. champ.
    The "acceptance" of gays in sports will be more difficult in the more "manly" sports such as football or Nascar (is that even a sport? I'm not sure). Macho guys never watch figure skating.

    I'm sure there have already been plenty of closeted gays in those manly sports, though.

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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    p.s. Anyone notice how there are already plenty of "out" lesbian athletes, and no one seems to care?
    That's because there's been a double standard in regards to societies acceptance of non-heterosexual women for ages now.

    Additionally, and going with the sad stereotype of sexism here, what women athlete's are actually well known and accepted. Most people don't know of many women basketball players. There's no major known professional womens football or baseball/softball league. Ditto for hockey. Aside from a chick taking her shirt off in soccer there hasn't been a ton of attention there.

    Most well known female athletes are from the "softer" sports such as gymnists, swimmers, tennis, etc. Typically the most well known ones are also the most attractive, not necessarily the "best" in their sports such as Anna Kornikova. Sometimes their attractiveness can transend the "soft" thig, such as Danica Patrick.

    With tha being the case, going back to the double standard in our society about women, if Danica Patrick came out as a lesbian all you'd be getting is fist bumps, high fives, and crude wooohooo's from the majority of the male population.

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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    ^------ There's your issue
    It sounds to me like YOU are the one here with the issue, considering the sport requires far more athleticism than most any of us have ever possessed in our life.
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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    That's because there's been a double standard in regards to societies acceptance of non-heterosexual women for ages now.

    Additionally, and going with the sad stereotype of sexism here, what women athlete's are actually well known and accepted. Most people don't know of many women basketball players. There's no major known professional womens football or baseball/softball league. Ditto for hockey. Aside from a chick taking her shirt off in soccer there hasn't been a ton of attention there.

    Most well known female athletes are from the "softer" sports such as gymnists, swimmers, tennis, etc. Typically the most well known ones are also the most attractive, not necessarily the "best" in their sports such as Anna Kornikova. Sometimes their attractiveness can transend the "soft" thig, such as Danica Patrick.

    With tha being the case, going back to the double standard in our society about women, if Danica Patrick came out as a lesbian all you'd be getting is fist bumps, high fives, and crude wooohooo's from the majority of the male population.
    "soft" or "hard" sports, they are still athletes. A female figure skater is still an athlete. Snowboarders are still athletes. Swimmers are still athletes. Skiers are still athletes. Runners, etc, etc.

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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    "soft" or "hard" sports, they are still athletes. A female figure skater is still an athlete. Snowboarders are still athletes. Swimmers are still athletes. Skiers are still athletes. Runners, etc, etc.
    I think there is an assumption that many female athletes are lesbians and not very feminine, particularly in certain sports. Softball, for instance. "Softball player," in this area of the U.S., is slang for "lesbian." I'm not even joking about this...I'm completely serious.

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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    "soft" or "hard" sports, they are still athletes. A female figure skater is still an athlete. Snowboarders are still athletes. Swimmers are still athletes. Skiers are still athletes. Runners, etc, etc.
    Never said they're not.

    However what sports tend to have "accepted" female sports stars that are more well known to the American public.

    Hockey, Football, Basketball, Baseball, Soccer

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    Tennis, Golf, Swimmers, Skiers, Gymnasts, Track and Field

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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Zyph has pretty much nailed it on the head. For a male athlete the three factors are what sport, how flaming he is, and how good he is (both on the field and off). If a mediocre football came out and started acting and looking like that figure skater, he's going to have a rough time finding acceptance. If Derrek Jeter came out as gay, it would be a big story, but ultimately he'd still be accepted by a vast majority of the fans.

    And I agree with Zyph when it comes to the double standard for female athletes. First off, female athletes recieve FAR less coverage than males. Most people can name one player of their city's baseball, football, basketball, and hockey teams. Those same people might not even be able to tell you the name of the female teams in their city.

    And with female athletes, there is often a sterotype that the unattractive ones are lesbians. And if an attractive one came out as a lesbian ... well most guys have probably already played that scenario out in their heads.
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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Those who follow the sport certainly know who he is.

    He's only a three time U.S. champ.
    Yeah....wait...who is he again?
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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    If the professional athlete was a top tier ass kicking athlete that wasnt a swishy femme and went about his life and business and didnt tolerate **** about his sexuality or make a big deal out of it, I GUARANTEE America would accept him as an athlete and a PERSON.

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    Re: Do you think America would accept an openly gay athlete?

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychoclown View Post
    And I agree with Zyph when it comes to the double standard for female athletes. First off, female athletes recieve FAR less coverage than males. Most people can name one player of their city's baseball, football, basketball, and hockey teams. Those same people might not even be able to tell you the name of the female teams in their city.
    When Ted Leonsis bought the Washington Wizards most people in town, including on sports radio, was talking about him as a "Two Sport Owner" now along with the Washington Capitals.

    Apparently a vast majority of the town do not know anything about the Washington Mystics, the WNBA team in Washington that is owned by Ted.

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