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    Re: End of the world

    Isn't 2012 simply the end of the Mayan calendar?
    Do we really think the Mayans had some mystical powers of prognostication?
    They didn't even have the sense to realize the blue-eyed guys on horses weren't their friends.

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    Re: End of the world

    It seems every generation thinks the end of the world is near until it passes them by.
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    Re: End of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    I picked up similar sentiments on my last travels in Africa around 18 years ago now - it was mostly Pentecostalist Christians / churches that inspired this belief.

    I haven't felt the world / humanity was going to end since my mum used to tell me that before she beat me with a belt in my pre-teen years. Been cynical ever since she wasn't able to inflict proper pain anymore. She was one of those rabid christians who preached hellfire and damnation (and she delivered it via dad's trouser belt)
    I think the sense that I am getting is not that humanity itself is going to end, but the way we are doing things in the current world order is not working and is bound to stop one way or another. It would be hard for every single human to vanish, and I don't think "end of the world" means the planet itself is going to blow up. I tend to agree with the sentiments already stated in this thread, that it mostly relates to the western lifestyle which is non-sustainable, and in turn our parasitic economy that is branched out worldwide to support our behaviors.

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    Re: End of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    It seems every generation thinks the end of the world is near until it passes them by.
    I have noticed that there are a few different groups of people that see it slightly differently. One group thinks the world is not going to end at all. Another group has no specific attachment to whether or not it ends, but may still acknowledge that things are going down hill. Then there's another group that seems to actively fantasize about the apocalypse incessantly, and is constantly preaching about it.

    The last group I don't really get. Whenever there is a paradigm shift in our world, a lot of people die. It's not really something we should be anxious for.

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    Re: End of the world

    I've often wondered why Christ is supposed to return to the earth and take the 12 tribes of Judea with Him to the big wedding in the sky (Book of Revelations). I guess that it seems odd for Him to rescue those that don't believe He's the Son of God and leave behind the believers to be smitten unto the Bowels of Hades. Should I convert?
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    Re: End of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    I've often wondered why Christ is supposed to return to the earth and take the 12 tribes of Judea with Him to the big wedding in the sky (Book of Revelations). I guess that it seems odd for Him to rescue those that don't believe He's the Son of God and leave behind the believers to be smitten unto the Bowels of Hades. Should I convert?
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    Re: End of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Isn't 2012 simply the end of the Mayan calendar?
    Do we really think the Mayans had some mystical powers of prognostication?
    They didn't even have the sense to realize the blue-eyed guys on horses weren't their friends.
    No it's just an end of the 5,000 year cycle of the Mayan Calendar. It continues on. Mayans themselves don't seem to give much attention to date or what occurs when a cycle ends and starts.

    As a society we seem to assume every time a date zero's or rounds out the apocalypse must ensue.

    I imagine society 2,000 years from now will read our Gregorian calendar and assume that something big must happen after December 31 since the calendar ends. People then assume that this something "big" must be either physically or spiritually significant to all life in some matter. This is what happens when we assume what an ancient civilization was thinking.
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    Re: End of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Isn't 2012 simply the end of the Mayan calendar?
    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    No it's just an end of the 5,000 year cycle of the Mayan Calendar. It continues on. Mayans themselves don't seem to give much attention to date or what occurs when a cycle ends and starts.

    As a society we seem to assume every time a date zero's or rounds out the apocalypse must ensue.

    I imagine society 2,000 years from now will read our Gregorian calendar and assume that something big must happen after December 31 since the calendar ends. People then assume that this something "big" must be either physically or spiritually significant to all life in some matter. This is what happens when we assume what an ancient civilization was thinking.
    No, it's a bit more than that. On the winter solstice of 2012, the sun will sit precisely on the crossroads between the Milky Way and the galactic equinox, forming a perfect alignment with the center of the galaxy. This happens once every 26,000 years or something (I can't remember exactly how many) and ONE of the Mayan calendars ends on the day this is to happen. To the Mayans, this was the end of one age and the beginning of another.

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    Re: End of the world

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    Re: End of the world

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, it's a bit more than that. On the winter solstice of 2012, the sun will sit precisely on the crossroads between the Milky Way and the galactic equinox, forming a perfect alignment with the center of the galaxy. This happens once every 26,000 years or something (I can't remember exactly how many) and ONE of the Mayan calendars ends on the day this is to happen. To the Mayans, this was the end of one age and the beginning of another.

    Does anyone know what a galactic equinox is, and whether it has some physical significance (ie lines of force or gravitation) or if it is little more than convention, or something that matters only to astronomers?

    I'm reminded of 1982, when a lot of otherwise intelligent people believed that the alignment of all the planets in the Solar System was going to bring on global calamity.

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