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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    the american peoples, they had just come from a rebellion of their own, and being politicians, they wanted their document to be accepted by as many people as possible, and saying the country had divine providence was a good way of assuring that.
    Our Constitutions were drafted by elected officials and lawmakers,... they represent the people who elected them,... they drafted the Constitutions in a way which reflected their own as well as their constituent's values,.....

    In this manner, our government and our 'country' was founded....

    But,... you would have us believe that the sentiments and principles on which the founders were selected and elected,... the principles they put into writing, etc... Are not the principles the country was founded upon?

    Yeah right.

    Wanna buy a bridge?

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    spud, you think the Founders were just pretending to be deeply religious to get the Constitution ratified? LOL! That's a new one.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I am going to go ahead and say anyone who truly thinks this country was meant to be a Christian nation is a complete moron.
    Well, that's a Hell of a way to try to start an open and civilized discourse on the issue. Good job.

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    The founding fathers were secularist, there is some evidence indicating Thomas Jefferson was at least agnostic.
    There were thirteen colonies that originally formed the United States, and each was its own State with its own charter and laws. There were a lot of Founding Fathers, and they didn't all agree on the direction our new nation should take.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Mellie really needs to stop relying on David Barton to compile her lists of quotes, btw.
    Honestly, did anybody read that long ass crap she posted? LOL!

    I think we been here and done this (thread topic) and will keep doing that here at DP. But this country was in no way founded on Christianity. Nope. Nope and Nope.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Now here is the question.... the same text also teaches that all temporal authority is, in some sense, instituted by God. Does the fact that the Revolution was successful and created a new temporal authority prove, after the fact, that God willed the Colonies to become a seperate nation? That the establishment of same has the Divine stamp of approval, because it was successful and has remained so for centuries?
    Sounds like Confucius' "Mandate of Heaven". A good ruler has the blessing of the divine and his authority is holy, while a bad leader is an abomination against the natural order.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Honestly, did anybody read that long ass crap she posted? LOL!

    I think we been here and done this (thread topic) and will keep doing that here at DP. But this country was in no way founded on Christianity. Nope. Nope and Nope.
    I'm sorry you think quotes from our Founders are "crap". Maybe you should read them sometime instead of just basing your opinions on your own feelings.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I'm sorry you think quotes from our Founders are "crap". Maybe you should read them sometime instead of just basing your opinions on your own feelings.
    Why? Are her opinions somehow less valid than theirs because she is alive and they are dead?

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Why? Are her opinions somehow less valid than theirs because she is alive and they are dead?
    Her opinions aren't based on fact. She refuses to read about the Founders and what they said about God, Christ and religion. It's "crap" to her so she just relies on her own personal opinions instead of reading what they actually said. That's one of the problems in this country.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Oh really? You gonna google some little quotes there out of context just to prove your point? Or would you like to hear how many of them wanted Christianity taught in schools? Or how Congress commissioned the publishing of The Bible? Have you ever READ a George Washington or George Whittfield speech? Do you even know what Thomas Jefferson's "new Bible" was all about?
    Here is an informative video you should watch about Congress and the Bible:


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    The volume is really low on that video. I can't hear what she's saying on my netbook. What does she say is incorrect about that statement?

    Aitken's Bible Endorsed by Congress
    The war with Britain cut off the supply of Bibles to the United States with the result that on Sept. 11, 1777, Congress instructed its Committee of Commerce to import 20,000 Bibles from "Scotland, Holland or elsewhere." On January 21, 1781, Philadelphia printer Robert Aitken (1734-1802) petitioned Congress to officially sanction a publication of the Old and New Testament which he was preparing at his own expense. Congress "highly approve the pious and laudable undertaking of Mr. Aitken, as subservient to the interest of religion . . . in this country, and . . . they recommend this edition of the bible to the inhabitants of the United States." This resolution was a result of Aitken's successful accomplishment of his project.



    Congressional resolution, September 12, 1782, endorsing Robert Aitken's Bible [page 468] -- [page 469]
    Philadelphia: David C. Claypoole, 1782 from the Journals of Congress
    Rare Book and Special Collections Division, Library of Congress (115)
    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/vc006472.jpg

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