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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Thomas Jefferson ....
    I am a Christian in the only sense in which He wished anyone to be: sincerely attached to His doctrines in preference to all others. -- Thomas Jefferson, Memoir, Correspondence, and Miscellanies from the Papers of Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, editor (Boston: Grey & Bowen, 1830), Vol. III, p. 506, to Benjamin Rush, April 21, 1803

    I am a real Christian – that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus Christ. -- Thomas Jefferson, The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, Albert Ellery Bergh, editor (Washington, D.C.: The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association, 1904), Vol. XIV, p. 385, to Charles Thomson on January 9, 1816
    These dont prove anything if you read between the lines you will see that he considers himself a true "christain" because he admires Jeseus's teachings and doesnt follow the added "junk" as he probably would have put it that is why he edited his bible to only show passages from Jesus....i mean lol you can even buy copies of his edited versoin on the internet.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Resist the gov. View Post
    These dont prove anything if you read between the lines you will see that he considers himself a true "christain" because he admires Jeseus's teachings and doesnt follow the added "junk" as he probably would have put it that is why he edited his bible to only show passages from Jesus....i mean lol you can even buy copies of his edited versoin on the internet.
    Yes, I have his edited Bible. I was simply showing Blackdog that TJ, indeed, called himself a Chrisitian.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Yes, I have his edited Bible. I was simply showing Blackdog that TJ, indeed, called himself a Chrisitian.
    And he just repeated what I said. Thomas Jefferson was not calling himself a Christian in the true sense of the word. You cannot be a Christian and deny Christs divinity, period.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Yes, I know you're opinions on the matter Blackdog. We just keep repeating oursevles!


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Yes, I know you're opinions on the matter Blackdog. We just keep repeating oursevles!
    Mine is not based on opinion though, it is fact. As soon as you produce evidence to show them as other than fact we will have something.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Jefferson did not believe in metaphysics, not just because it seemed to unlikely for the rational mind, but also because it was simply idle thought, when man could be accomplishing things in the concrete. Jesus was merely someone who we should model ourselves after, nothing more, thought Jefferson. He was a Christian in the sense that one is a follower or fellow-travelor of Ghandi, like many Americans thought of themselves in the 1950s through the 1970s-an admirer of a political, intellectual, and philosophical leader, rather than sharing that person's metaphysical views. This separates himself from Christian of the religion or spiritual faith and places his interest in Christ merely in his concrete doctrine with regard to mankind and how he should act. That is also why when he picked up some of Nicholas Steno's work, who pioneered the study of geology and later became a fervent Catholic, Jefferson thought his commentary on something supernatural or not regarding the creation of the Earth was not worth reading or considering.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I hear all the time that "this is a Christian Nation". Do you think this is so.

    I am going to go ahead and say anyone who truly thinks this country was meant to be a Christian nation is a complete moron. The founding fathers were secularist, there is some evidence indicating Thomas Jefferson was at least agnostic.

    " The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes; fools and hypocrites. To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." -Thomas Jefferson
    While the nation was certainly founded on Christian principals and is a Christian nation, the current government was not founded on any religion.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    While the nation was certainly founded on Christian principals and is a Christian nation, the current government was not founded on any religion.
    Our system of government was patterned after the Roman system of government that was developed when Rome was Pagan. And the Greeks contributed alot too with their notions of democracy that again were developed when the majority were Pagan in religion.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    No, it's absolutely accurate. Seriously, read some history.
    For real! I already told em to read the Federalist Papers. Honestly some are blinded by dogma
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    For real! I already told em to read the Federalist Papers. Honestly some are blinded by dogma
    LOL! Groucho already said he was wrong. And so are you. Yet you continue to believe things that just aren't true. Why is that?


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