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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So less than half the States have this as a law, and it doesn't seem like it's widely used at all. A case or two every few years at most. Again, it really appears to be a seldom used law and only when cops and the DA are trying to be dicks.
    Well, yea, it's 2010. I'm sure it was far more common and more rigorously prosecuted a century or two ago.

    If this were something that all states had and was actively enforced; ok I'd buy it. But it's not. If the US were founded on Christian values, this and the other 6 non-law Commandments would be law everywhere.
    I don't see how the existence or enforcement of an adultery law today says anything one way or the other about whether the country was "founded on Christian values."
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Well, yea, it's 2010. I'm sure it was far more common and more rigorously prosecuted a century or two ago.


    In the article it said only 13 people had prosecuted under the NY law.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    In the article it said only 13 people had prosecuted under the NY law.
    It's only 13 people since 1972, but the law itself was passed back in 1908. I would be surprised if they went to all the trouble of passing the law but then never enforced it for 60+ years, regardless of what the ABC article seems to imply. That's also just NY.

    Either way, this is all fairly irrelevant to the larger issue, as the existence of an adultery law doesn't prove anything about the "christianity" of the founders. I just saw Catz's comment and thought this was an interesting turn of events.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's only 13 people since 1972, but the law itself was passed back in 1908. I would be surprised if they went to all the trouble of passing the law but then never enforced it for 60+ years, regardless of what the ABC article seems to imply. That's also just NY.
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    The article said:

    Suzanne M. Corona of Batavia, N.Y., became only the 13th person in the history of New York to be charged with adultery when she was arrested last Friday along with Justin Amend.
    Either way, this is all fairly irrelevant to the larger issue, as the existence of an adultery law doesn't prove anything about the "christianity" of the founders. I just saw Catz's comment and thought this was an interesting turn of events.
    Yeah I pretty much agree.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Again, I'm not saying it's a good thing or that it would withstand a challenge. I'm just noting that it is and has been prosecuted throughout our history.
    Of course, if I'm not mistaken, fornication and adultery were illegal in Rome, as well.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Whoa, dude. the constitution does not mention Jesus.
    Actually it does, and it exalts him as Lord "Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven"
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Most of the founders were deists who simply believe in a Creator, not a God. Where is Jesus referenced in the Constitution? The goal in the Constitution is found in the Preamble - to have a "more perfect union" I presume over British rule.
    Many of them were Christian theologians as well. Many of their quotes would show that they have strong Christian faith
    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Specifically, what Christian ideals do you believe were foundational to creating this nation?
    Ideals like personal freedom, not having the church run government (as Europe had been doing), and the personal rights of humans as given to them by God. We have our rights because the founders believed God gave them to us.
    History fail. The constitution makes no mention of god or Jesus.
    See above, the Constitution is signed in the year of the Lord (Jesus Christ). The Declaration of Independence has reference to God as well.
    No. The Declaration never mentions your god (YHWH). The Declaration makes mention of a creator, but is non-specific.
    "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God" is in the Declaration. The Declaration was written by Christians and Natures God is capitalized (indicating the Christian God). Who is the Creator? Are Christians writing about Shiva or Allah?
    Quotes plz?


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Thank you. I call such people "Willfully ignorant".

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I apologize as in hindsight it was indeed out of hand. It's become a habit for me to call people who I think are ignorant morons, which I need to stop.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Ideals like personal freedom, not having the church run government (as Europe had been doing), and the personal rights of humans as given to them by God. We have our rights because the founders believed God gave them to us.
    But which God? They never say.

    See above, the Constitution is signed in the year of the Lord (Jesus Christ). The Declaration of Independence has reference to God as well.
    WEAK SAUCE. And no, Jesus Christ is never named, and this does not construe religiousity.

    "Laws of Nature and of Nature's God"is in the Declaration. The Declaration was written by Christians and Natures God is capitalized (indicating the Christian God). Who is the Creator? Are Christians writing about Shiva or Allah?
    Or perhaps, all of the above. Since all claim to be creators. Zeus, maybe, too. The creator is scrupulously NOT identified by name.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Of course, if I'm not mistaken, fornication and adultery were illegal in Rome, as well.
    I'm not saying they weren't. I was just responding to your post.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    I don't know if it was intended to be or not, but of course 99 percent believed in God. There were a few rebels like Ingersol and Pain, and even they hadn't resolved all the questions and mysteries that still plague would-be atheists today.

    Myself, as a materialistic naturalist, I don't have to answer all those questions,

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