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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Religions raise and contribute billions of dollars to the problems of poverty and illness on this planet. They educate children. They practically single handedly take care of AIDS patients in most cities, providing medicine and shelter for them. They throw great parties like Mardi Gras and Christmas.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    When was the last time that an adultery case was prosecuted in the U.S.? Feel free to provide dates and locations.
    6/8/2010: Suzanne Corona of Batavia, N.Y.: Woman Charged with Adultery to Challenge New York Law - ABC News
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Weren't we discussing federal level? The law will also be thrown out as it's absurd.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Weren't we discussing federal level? The law will also be thrown out as it's absurd.
    I agree that it's absurd, I'm just pointing out that adultery is still prosecuted in many places today.

    There are no federal laws on this kind of thing because they always left it to the states to criminalize or legalize as they chose.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I agree that it's absurd, I'm just pointing out that adultery is still prosecuted in many places today.

    There are no federal laws on this kind of thing because they always left it to the states to criminalize or legalize as they chose.


    I was just reading a wiki article that brought up Lawernce vs Texas in relation to privacy. So maybe they have done this in private?

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    That's ridiculous. It will be dismissed soon, and if it goes further, the law will be found unconstitutional. It's just one of those old laws on the books they haven't removed yet, and an obviously dumb cop and/or DA.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I agree that it's absurd, I'm just pointing out that adultery is still prosecuted in many places today.

    There are no federal laws on this kind of thing because they always left it to the states to criminalize or legalize as they chose.
    Well I wouldn't say "in many places". I would say "in a few places". And it's a seldomly used law, and it's about to get thrown out. So I think the adultry point still stands.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    That's ridiculous. It will be dismissed soon, and if it goes further, the law will be found unconstitutional. It's just one of those old laws on the books they haven't removed yet, and an obviously dumb cop and/or DA.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Well I wouldn't say "in many places". I would say "in a few places". And it's a seldomly used law, and it's about to get thrown out. So I think the adultry point still stands.

    Last month, John R. Bushey Jr. was finally brought to justice in a small courthouse in Luray, Va. Bushey, the former town attorney, stood before the court as an accused criminal with reporters from all over the state in attendance. The charge was adultery. Like 23 other states, Virginia still might prosecute if a husband or wife has consensual sex outside the marriage.
    Of Lust and the Law (washingtonpost.com)

    Likewise, when the Illinois legislature last year made a comprehensive set of changes to update the state’s laws, it notably kept the criminal provisions for adultery and fornication. In addition to roughly half of the states, adultery remains a criminal offense in the military, where prosecutions occur regularly.

    In these state and federal systems, adults who cheat on their spouses are still deemed presumptive criminals and face the potential of a criminal charge. Just a year after the Lawrence decision, John R. Bushey Jr., then 66, the town attorney for Luray, Va., was prosecuted for adultery and agreed to a plea bargain of community service. A year later, Lucius James Penn, then 29, was charged with adultery in Fargo, N.D. In 2007, a Michigan appellate court ruled that adultery can still support a life sentence in that state.
    Criminal Adultery: States Ponder The Continuation of Puritanical Laws JONATHAN TURLEY

    Again, I'm not saying it's a good thing or that it would withstand a challenge. I'm just noting that it is and has been prosecuted throughout our history.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    So less than half the States have this as a law, and it doesn't seem like it's widely used at all. A case or two every few years at most. Again, it really appears to be a seldom used law and only when cops and the DA are trying to be dicks. If this were something that all states had and was actively enforced; ok I'd buy it. But it's not. If the US were founded on Christian values, this and the other 6 non-law Commandments would be law everywhere.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    I don't know if it was intended to be or not, but of course 99 percent believed in God. There were a few rebels like Ingersol and Pain, and even they hadn't resolved all the questions and mysteries that still plague would-be atheists today.

    Myself, as a materialistic naturalist, I don't have to answer all those questions,

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