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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    What do you think the phrase "The Myth of Separation" means?

    From the Wall Builders website:

    WallBuilders' goal is to exert a direct and positive influence in government, education, and the family by (1) educating the nation concerning the Godly foundation of our country; (2) providing information to federal, state, and local officials as they develop public policies which reflect Biblical values; and (3) encouraging Christians to be involved in the civic arena.
    More on the goals of David Barton:
    http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Politi...eparation.aspx
    Barton's main contention is that the separation of church and state was never intended by the nation's founders; he says it was created by the Supreme Court in the 20th Century. The back cover of his 1989 book, "The Myth of Separation," proclaims: "This book proves that separation of church and state is a myth."
    Do you know what reconstructionism is, Mellie? Or are you going to play disengenuous naif?
    Last edited by Catz Part Deux; 06-28-10 at 04:39 PM.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What do you think the phrase "The Myth of Separation" means?
    I don't guess what people mean. I actually read what they say about it. Are you going to post anything he actually SAID about it?


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I think the country was founded upon Christian morals and the rights we have are ours because the founders believed the Christian God gave them to us.
    christian morals included the inquisition. our country was founded by imperfect men who didn't necessarily hold the same religious views and to pretend otherwise is just silly.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    so instead it was you googling quotes. thanks.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What do you think the phrase "The Myth of Separation" means?

    From the Wall Builders website:



    More on the goals of David Barton:
    The Bush campaign has hired David Barton who calls the U.S. a 'Christian nation'- Beliefnet.com


    Do you know what reconstructionism is, Mellie? Or are you going to play disengenuous naif?
    1. I haven't read his book and neither have you obviously so I can't say exactly what he means by that. If he's saying that our country was supposed to be a theocracy, then that's completely wrong.

    2. What Biblical values do you disagree with? (And don't give me a list of Old Covenant crap. Since Christ, the Old Covenant was abolished.) If you have a problem with it, then you have a problem with Jews, not Christians.

    Besides, we already have laws based on Biblical values.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    More on David Barton:

    Barton writes: "In July 1987, God impressed me to do two things. First, I was to search the library and find the date that prayer had been prohibited in public schools. Second, I was to obtain a record of national SAT scores (the academic test given to prospective college-bound high school students) spanning several decades. I didn't know why, but I somehow knew that these two pieces of information would be very important."


    As a result, Barton writes that he learned America has declined because of the 1962 and '63 Supreme Court rulings banning school-sponsored prayer. He believes God is angry at the country and has retaliated.

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    christian morals included the inquisition. our country was founded by imperfect men who didn't necessarily hold the same religious views and to pretend otherwise is just silly.
    Christian morals include what the Bible says. Our laws reflect Judeo-Christian ethics. We have our rights because the constitution says we were given them by our Creator (the Christian God). The Constitution was ratified in "the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven..." The "Year of our Lord" upholds Jesus as their Lord. Christianity influenced our constitution, morals, and founding fathers.
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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    1. I haven't read his book and neither have you obviously so I can't say exactly what he means by that. If he's saying that our country was supposed to be a theocracy, then that's completely wrong.

    2. What Biblical values do you disagree with? (And don't give me a list of Old Covenant crap. Since Christ, the Old Covenant was abolished.) If you have a problem with it, then you have a problem with Jews, not Christians.
    Besides, we already have laws based on Biblical values.
    What laws, Mellie, do we have that are based upon explicitly BIBLICAL values?

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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    What laws, Mellie, do we have that are based upon explicitly BIBLICAL values?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Do you think this country was founded upon Christianity?

    Just curious, Catz....why do you continue to post OTHER people's interpretations instead of the actual primary sources? Your paragraph that begins "As a result..." isn't Barton's words. What are HIS words exactly?

    (I think I'll agree with him if they are what the paraphrase suggests...)


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